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Message started by yoki on Feb 23rd, 2004 at 2:35pm

Title: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery and
Post by yoki on Feb 23rd, 2004 at 2:35pm
I wanted to know if there were any MM who have not had the surgery and just on Meds alone? What happens if you don't get the surgery and only treat your MM with medication? Also does any body have a problem with altitudes with MM?

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Sara on Feb 23rd, 2004 at 5:45pm
Yoki:

I did have a lot of headaches and TIA's when I went to CO. I try to stay down south, and at sea level.

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Rena on Feb 23rd, 2004 at 8:41pm
We live in CO (6,000+ above sea level), and Tyler hasn't had any problems. Maybe it makes a difference if you lived at a high altitude before hand  [smiley=huh.gif]. We also have flown, however I can't say if it was the MM or the fact that he just had his staples removed a few hours before, that caused his problems then?????

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Nancy_N. on Feb 23rd, 2004 at 11:11pm
I think if you don't get the surgery and only treat it with meds the out come eventually will be surgery anyway. If you get symptoms and don't get suregery the out come is way worse. The only cases I personally have heard of that waited to long to be treated with surgery are no longer with us. It's a very serious disease and not to be taken lightly. Good Luck!  :)
                        Nancy

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Mar on Feb 24th, 2004 at 10:08am

yoki wrote on Feb 23rd, 2004 at 2:35pm:
I wanted to know if there were any MM who have not had the surgery and just on Meds alone? What happens if you don't get the surgery and only treat your MM with medication?

Hi Yoki,

A thorough evaluation of the blood flow pattern in the brain is essential to developing a treatment plan for each patient. A quote from Dr. Scott, a leading specialist on mm says about your question: "All patients with moyamoya syndrome have progressive narrowing of their brain blood vessels over time, and I have never seen an exception to this rule after many years of studying these patients. Along with this progressive narrowing of the brain blood vessels, the patient's clinical condition will worsen also; this is why surgery to increase the brain's borderline blood supply is so important. Certain medications can be very helpful in the treatment of the symptoms of mm. It is important to understand, however, that no medications prevent the arterial narrowing process from progressing or keep the moyamoya vessels from developing, and I firmly believe that surgery is the mainstay of treatment for the syndrome."

From my family's experience and many here on the boards, the result was massive strokes and much more. That's the risk without surgery with this serious disease.

Good Luck!

Mar


Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by tomg on Feb 24th, 2004 at 3:03pm

    Hi Yoki this is Tom G.  and I havent had the surgery and I'm really not on any special meds for MM.  My surgeon Dr. Connoly of Columbia Presbyterian in NY determined that I have good blood flow to my brain and the stenosis isn't that bad.  Other than some deficits from my stroke I have no other MM symptoms but like you, I wonder what lies ahead and if I'll need the surgery eventually.
    Stay well,   Tom G.

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Sara on Feb 24th, 2004 at 5:19pm
I can not believe they are not giving the surgery to everyone. It is a progressive disease and I am a living testiment to that. I have told you all previously that they watched it get worse in me. When I first went in to the doctor, it was only on one side of my brain, and then, it went to the other side. I would find a doctor who wants to do the surgery because more circulation could never be a bad thing. Just my opinion. But, those of us who have had the surgery know that it is worth it.

Please, I hope I didn't say too much. Just think those of you who have been told you don't need it yet, should go to other docs for second opinions.

God Bless!

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Nancy_N. on Feb 24th, 2004 at 10:58pm
AMEN SARA!!!!!!!!!

                           Nancy [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by DJ on Feb 25th, 2004 at 12:32am
I'm gonna have to agree with Mar, Sara, Nancy, and Dr. Scott on this one...

I went a year between getting to the point where I needed surgeries on my left an right side.  I have no doubt it's a progresive disease and the sooner it's treated with surgery, the better.

Having permanent damaage from major strokes or TIA's isn't worth it as far as I'm concerned!  Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt.

Just my  [smiley=twocents.gif]

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by ddtlans on Mar 3rd, 2004 at 11:21am
i had 4 tias in 8/91 at that time surgery was only suggested in Atlanta GA. by my nuer. at UofM inAnnArbor Mi. i've been asprin&blood presser meds
thank you            

                             
                                   ddtlans

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by Nancy_N. on Mar 3rd, 2004 at 1:27pm
ddtlans,
             You've never had surgery? :-/
                                 
                                        Nancy

Title: Re: Anybody out there who has not had the surgery
Post by ddtlans on Mar 3rd, 2004 at 2:11pm
no,not for mm
the way surgery was put to me at that time in my life seemed very scary. what i recall it sounded expermental
i was glad to be able to walk,talk and have use of one arm.



                               ddtlans






be able to walk,talk & have one good arm

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