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Sep 21st, 2007 at 11:33pm
 
G'day all. I have been having health issues (headaches, left sided numbness/pins and needles and short term memory loss for approx 9 mths. I've had mri, mra, ct, lumbar puncture and a catherter angigogram a few weeks ago which gave an indication of moya moya.  Earlier mri/ct showed an artery that is extremley small and almost blocked with surrounding veins larger than normal as they are trying to cope with blood flow. My vascular specialist has ordered a ct brain profusion study which I am having on Monday. Does anyone know what the ct profusion study is and if it is used as a definite diagnosis for moya moya? I am thankful to finding this site as my family doctor who gave me the indication of having moya moya knows nothing about it. My other question is if there are any other canadian moya moya sufferers on here? I haven't found any indication of doctors who treat or who specialize in surgery for moya moya of adults in canada? I am worried what will happen if I am diagnosed about getting treatment/surgery if no one in canada specializes in it? Any feedback or advice would be gratefully appreciated. Thankyou, Beck.
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Reply #1 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 8:39am
 
Hi Beck,
As far as I am aware the Angiogram is the only real definitive diagnosis of MM, all the other tests just substantiate what has been found with the angiogram. There is a tab at the top of the page "medical Info" which outlines all the different procedures and what they entail.
As I am in Australia I cannot help you regarding the Canadian problem but I have checked the member map on site and found that there are 13 other MM sufferers in Canada.
I am unfamiliar with how far away you may be from Stanford in the US - it may be as simple as flying to the US or within driving range. I do apologise for my lack of knowledge in regards to distance but there are several highly recommended doctors who are familiar with and treat MM regularly in the US particularly Dr Steinberg at Stanford.
Please know that there is support out there and you will get through this. This site is a wealth of information and has many understanding and caring members who have had surgery and are leading normal lives today.
There is a thread about surgeons with MM experience as well so take a little time and surf this site for all your answers - you will find what you are looking for
Best wishes
Moira

I have actually just checked the surgeons with experience link and have found that a Dr Mark Hamilton in Calgary, Alberta has extensive MM experience
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Reply #2 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 9:59am
 
Hi Beck, Smiley

Welcome to our MM family!

I’m sorry to hear you have MM. It certainly sounds as though you have many of the symptoms, so I’m really glad you found us. There is a wealth of information here, and knowledge is sooooo important and even life saving when you’re in a world where many in the medical community do NOT know enough about this rare disease to steer you in the best direction for your specific case. So asking questions and researching this disease is very wise and we’re here to help you in any way we can.

The tests you went through is the general process for evaluating your diagnosis. The perfusion study shows the perfusion (or flow) of blood through the brain. The angio is the actual diagnostic test for MMD because it’s the only test that can actually see the mm vessels in your brain.

I can’t emphasize enough how important it is that you find a doctor that has REAL experience in treating MMD. This is so important because of the many factors involved. MMD can be successfully treated, IF you have a doctor/facility who has experience treating this disease. MM is a progressive disease, it gets worse over time, so you’re always at risk for a stroke with MMD, so prompt treatment is vital. Delay in treatment is a pitfall we see all too often and strokes will occur.

In your research you will find that there are only two MM experts in our country that deal with MM on a daily basis. One is in Boston, Dr. Scott, he’s a pediatric MM specialist and Dr. Steinberg, at Stanford, California, and he’s both a pediatric/adult expert. Both experts have done hundreds of successful surgeries for MMD. So many have to travel to get their expertise. Surgical management is the ONLY treatment for MMD, no medications stop the narrowing or the MM vessels from developing, so surgery introduces a new blood flow to get the proper blood to your brain and avoid the stroke waiting to happen.

I don’t know if you viewed this Stanford video under Links on the website, but if not, this may be helpful in your research.

Stanford video - Moyamoya
http://www.moyamoya.com/stanfordvideo/moyamoya2.wmv

Many also contact a MM specialist for a second opinion. You simply send the expert a copy of your films (MRI/MRA Angiogram, etc) and they call you after they read those films, with their expert opinion, usually for free, so you’ll know if you’re on the correct path for your case. So getting copies of all films now is a smart thing to do when searching for a MM experienced doctor, which is a MUST for success.

I hope this information helped you. Feel free to ask away. There are some wonderful people here who traveled this same road. No question is too small.

Please keep us posted…

God Bless,

Mar
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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 10:27am
 
Dear Beck,
My 7 year old  boy was diagnosed with moyamoya last fall and his neuro-surgeon is Dr. Mark Hamilton in Calgary. I believe he also has clinic appointments at the Foothills Hospital (for adults) in Calgary. You may want to check it out. He has experience with moyamoya.  I am not sure in which part of the country you live in but I know there are other moyamoya sufferers in Canada (west and East) who had surgery in the country (Vancouver & Toronto). You may want to read some previous posts or they might reply to you soon.
Let me know if I can be of further help!
We wish you the best.
Gazou
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Reply #4 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 11:55am
 
Hi moyamoi, thank you so much for your reply.  ;Grin
Where in Australia are you? I was born and raised in Melbourne, I moved to Canada 9 yrs ago.
Thank you for checking through the site for further info on surgeons etc for me. I did see the Calgary doctor but thought he was only apediatric doctor. I do hope to connect with some other Canadians on here especially any in Vancouver to find out which doctor they have seen. Thank you again, Beck

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Hi Beck,
As far as I am aware the Angiogram is the only real definitive diagnosis of MM, all the other tests just substantiate what has been found with the angiogram. There is a tab at the top of the page "medical Info" which outlines all the different procedures and what they entail.
As I am in Australia I cannot help you regarding the Canadian problem but I have checked the member map on site and found that there are 13 other MM sufferers in Canada.
I am unfamiliar with how far away you may be from Stanford in the US - it may be as simple as flying to the US or within driving range. I do apologise for my lack of knowledge in regards to distance but there are several highly recommended doctors who are familiar with and treat MM regularly in the US particularly Dr Steinberg at Stanford.
Please know that there is support out there and you will get through this. This site is a wealth of information and has many understanding and caring members who have had surgery and are leading normal lives today.
There is a thread about surgeons with MM experience as well so take a little time and surf this site for all your answers - you will find what you are looking for
Best wishes
Moira

I have actually just checked the surgeons with experience link and have found that a Dr Mark Hamilton in Calgary, Alberta has extensive MM experience

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Reply #5 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 12:12pm
 
Hello Mar, thank you for your reply. Well I'm at least glad to know they 'think' they know what is wrong with me. I was starting to get frustrated.  And most of all grateful that it is something that can be treated.

Thanks for the video link, I had't seen that yet and it was helpful. Having read through information on this great site, I have the same worry that as soon as my specialist tells me for sure its Moya Moya, then my priority is to find a surgeon or specialist who knows about moya moya.
Depending on what the specialist says, I will get a second opinion. Do the doctors readily give copies of your tests/films normally if you wish to get a second opinion?  I have my ct profusion exam on Monday and then wait until the end of October before I can see the specialist as he's away on holidays which concerns me that I have to wait so long.  Thank you again,
Beck

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Hi Beck, Smiley

Welcome to our MM family!

I’m sorry to hear you have MM. It certainly sounds as though you have many of the symptoms, so I’m really glad you found us. There is a wealth of information here, and knowledge is sooooo important and even life saving when you’re in a world where many in the medical community do NOT know enough about this rare disease to steer you in the best direction for your specific case. So asking questions and researching this disease is very wise and we’re here to help you in any way we can.

The tests you went through is the general process for evaluating your diagnosis. The perfusion study shows the perfusion (or flow) of blood through the brain. The angio is the actual diagnostic test for MMD because it’s the only test that can actually see the mm vessels in your brain.

I can’t emphasize enough how important it is that you find a doctor that has REAL experience in treating MMD. This is so important because of the many factors involved. MMD can be successfully treated, IF you have a doctor/facility who has experience treating this disease. MM is a progressive disease, it gets worse over time, so you’re always at risk for a stroke with MMD, so prompt treatment is vital. Delay in treatment is a pitfall we see all too often and strokes will occur.

In your research you will find that there are only two MM experts in our country that deal with MM on a daily basis. One is in Boston, Dr. Scott, he’s a pediatric MM specialist and Dr. Steinberg, at Stanford, California, and he’s both a pediatric/adult expert. Both experts have done hundreds of successful surgeries for MMD. So many have to travel to get their expertise. Surgical management is the ONLY treatment for MMD, no medications stop the narrowing or the MM vessels from developing, so surgery introduces a new blood flow to get the proper blood to your brain and avoid the stroke waiting to happen.

I don’t know if you viewed this Stanford video under Links on the website, but if not, this may be helpful in your research.

Stanford video - Moyamoya
http://www.moyamoya.com/stanfordvideo/moyamoya2.wmv

Many also contact a MM specialist for a second opinion. You simply send the expert a copy of your films (MRI/MRA Angiogram, etc) and they call you after they read those films, with their expert opinion, usually for free, so you’ll know if you’re on the correct path for your case. So getting copies of all films now is a smart thing to do when searching for a MM experienced doctor, which is a MUST for success.

I hope this information helped you. Feel free to ask away. There are some wonderful people here who traveled this same road. No question is too small.

Please keep us posted…

God Bless,

Mar

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Reply #6 - Sep 22nd, 2007 at 12:16pm
 
Good morning Gazou,
I'm sorry you've had this experience with yoru child. I couldn't imagine going through it with my kids.
I'm on Vancouver Island but have been having to travel to Victoria and Vancouver for the tests. The vascular specialist I'm seeing is Dr Teal in Vancouver and Vancouver is also where they are sending me for the CT scan on Monday. I'm going to go through some previous posts to try and find anyone in Vancouver especially. Thank you for the suggestion. I was worried I would have to travel out of country for treatment. Have a wonderful day, Beck   ;Grin

gazou wrote on Sep 22nd, 2007 at 10:27am:
Dear Beck,
My 7 year old  boy was diagnosed with moyamoya last fall and his neuro-surgeon is Dr. Mark Hamilton in Calgary. I believe he also has clinic appointments at the Foothills Hospital (for adults) in Calgary. You may want to check it out. He has experience with moyamoya.  I am not sure in which part of the country you live in but I know there are other moyamoya sufferers in Canada (west and East) who had surgery in the country (Vancouver & Toronto). You may want to read some previous posts or they might reply to you soon.
Let me know if I can be of further help!
We wish you the best.
Gazou

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canadianbeck wrote on Sep 22nd, 2007 at 12:12pm:
Do the doctors readily give copies of your tests/films normally if you wish to get a second opinion?

Yes, here in the USA many would expect you to get a copy; especially when dealing with a rare disease where other doctors/specialists involved will need to view them for definitive answers and treatment. Many will make a copy for you while having the particular test done, if you request it, and yet some other facilities may make you pay for doing it. We’ve experienced both. They put it on CD’s now and it’s really quite simple for them. You simply call the facility where you had them and request a copy.  They’re your films that you’ve paid for. At least that’s how it’s looked at here.

Good Luck!
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Reply #8 - Oct 1st, 2007 at 8:57am
 
Hello fellow Canadian

I just had the STA-MCA bypass surgery on September 11.  I live an hour from Ottawa where the surgery was performed.  The surgery was performed by Dr. John Sinclair out of the Ottawa Civic Hospital.  i think he did a great job.  i feel stronger every day.  Also Dr. Sinclair trained under Dr. Steinburg at Stanford University for four years so i was very comfortable with his experience.  Also check out the topic surgeons with bypass experience.  i thought i saw the name of another doctor in Alberta.  There may be more Canadian doctors on that message board.  Good luck.  I also had the ct perfusion scan. it measures blood flow and determines whether you have sufficient blood flow on that side of the brain.  if it shows a low percentage of blood flow they will recommend the surgery.  that's how i understood it.  i only had between 55-60% so the surgery was necessary.  hope to hear back from you. Also the Ottawa Civic Hospital gives amazing post surgery care.

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Reply #9 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 12:08pm
 
Hey canadianbeck - I've been recently been diagnosed with MM (or possibly a variant, so far my neuro's can't seem to decide...). I'm in Vancouver, and I'm actually going to speak to a vascular neurosurgeon at VGH this morning. Hence, I'm back to this forum, doing some last minute research. I'd love to chat and compare stories - where in Canada are you? Feel free to send me a private message here, and I'll give you my email, if you're interested. I think i've been through almost every freaking test there is... finding out the latest results today as well. My left center artery is completely occluded, and I initially presented with TIAs, weakness in my left side and incessant headaches.

I'll know a lot more after today (hopefully).. wish me luck!!!
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Reply #10 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 12:09pm
 
Argh.. that should read weakness in my *right* side... it's gotta be Monday!
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