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Oct 31st, 2007 at 7:37pm
 
Hi everyone

i'm relatively new here.  i had the STA-MCA bypass surgery on September 11 2007.  i've been feeling great and feeling stronger every day.  i went for my follow up appointment on October 23.  i thought because i was feeling so good that i would get a clean bill of health.  they had done a ct scan the day prior to my appointment.  just a few days before my follow up i noticed some drainage coming from the lower part of my incision.  i didn't think anything of it because when i had the staples removed the nurse told me that there was some fluid underneath.  i was also feeling great.  well, as soon as my surgeon saw it he admitted me to hospital immediately for further test and the possibility of surgery.  initially they thought it was superficial and were going to send me home with a picc line and antibiotics for six weeks. the surgeon came in on Friday morning and told me the radiologist who read my MRI called him at home late the night before to say he thinks the infection may have travelled to my brain.  so i went in for surgery on Friday Oct 26 to clean it out.  they had to remove a small piece of my skull as there was infection underneath.  i was very lucky as it had not travelled any further.  i was in a week and just returned home yesterday.  i will be on a picc line with antbiotics for 6 weeks.  i have to be fitted for a helmet because of the removal of the bone and until that is fitted approximately a month from now i'm not allowed to leave my home.  apparently about 1% of the patients with bypass surgery will get an infection.  so not only do i have moya moya (rare) but now i'm in the rare category for infection.  i do consider myself very lucky that it was caught early and that i have a surgeon who has good instincts and takes no chances.  now after all that has anyone else had infection after surgery?  i've read many posts  on the message board and always find coming here reassuring and helpful.  i definitely don't feel alone in this.

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Reply #1 - Oct 31st, 2007 at 9:13pm
 
Hi Smitty 39 and Welcome to the MM Family!

Wow! You had a rough road with surgery and then an infection and surgery again!  Glad to hear the infection was caught soon but sorry to hear you had to go through the second surgery and now have to wear a helmet and have a pic line for six weeks. Sounds like you should play the lottery with having MM (a rare disease) and getting an infection that only happens to about 1%!

It's good to hear that you find coming to the board reassuring and helpful.  You are not alone in this as we are here to support you through your journey.

Thanks for sharing your story.  I personally don't know anyone who has had an infection after surgery like you had but possibly someone who may have had a similar experience will respond.

Again, welcome and keep us posted on your recovery.

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Reply #2 - Oct 31st, 2007 at 9:49pm
 
Lore

thank you for your reply.  i think i will buy that lottery ticket.  unfortunately it's been a very long road.  after i had my stroke they thought i had MS for six months until they finally did an angiogram that discovered it was moya moya, which no one at that point had really heard of. once again i was lucky because i didn't have surgery to treat it until almost a year to the day of my stroke  and i remained very healthy, walking daily and doing yoga 1.5hrs per week.   then i was referred to the only doctor within an hour of me that knows about moya moya.  he trained for four years under Dr. Steinburg in California.  other than a few melt downs which is important i've remained positive for the last 13mths.  that's why this message board is so helpful.  everyone is so positive that you can't help but be positive.  i still have to go back for a third surgery to put in a plastic piece where the removed the skull.  after that i'm determined that it's smooth sailing.  i hope i get some replies.  even if i don't just sharing the experience has helped.  thank you again.

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Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2007 at 9:06pm
 
Debbie,

You have a very positive attitude and that will pull you through. I'm a firm believer in attitude is everything.  You have been dealt a hand of cards and you are playing the hand and very well!

My brother is a MM survivor and was operated on by Dr. Steinberg in May of 2005 and he is doing very well, all things considered.  He had two strokes and a hemorrage and a dissected right upper internal carotid artery.  He went misdiagnosed for four years.  I know how it feels to get a wrong diagnosis such as MS.

Looking back, early on, it was mentioned that my brother might have MS or even Parkinson's because of the tremors in his hands.  It's amazing that even after all the misdiagnosis and strokes that Kevin survived as long as he did before he had his surgeries.  Goes to show the body can take a lot and still survive.

You are a trooper and I know you will hang in there and see this through your next surgery and do well with your upbeat attitude.

Kevin is a MM survivor and I am a cancer survivor and we have a saying "one can get busy living or one can get busy dying".  We choose to live life to the fullest the best we can and believe everyday is not only a new day but a gift.  Some days are tougher than others. When we are not feeling up to par and maybe having a bad day we have another saying "any day above ground is a good day".  It keeps us positive and puts things in perspective.  Sometimes its hard to imagine things can be worse but then we remember what we have been through and how we made it through then and how fortunate and blessed we are now to have been given a second chance.

Stay strong and I have faith you will do well.

keep us posted. 

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Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2007 at 9:48pm
 
lore

thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  i know you speak from experience and i've learned how important family support is.  i also realized that a huge part of how you recover is attitude and i've lived by this.  i also made a very conscious decision that i would not live with moya moya but it would have to live with me.  i tried very much not to let it impact on my life too much.  i even coached my sons soccer team this past summer. i couldn't run and kick the ball around with the team but i was definitely  able to give direction, encouragement and cheered them on.  in fact our team came first in the league.  i unfortunately still have not regained the full use of my hand from my stroke over a year ago but no one notices. once again thank you. i'll probably be posting more as i now have six weeks of staring at the inside of my house.

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Reply #5 - Nov 4th, 2007 at 7:26pm
 
hi,
you are the first person other than my sister linee to have this happen Shocked. my daughter molly and my sister linee have MM. Linee had her 2nd surgery in january 07. It went well she came home but the wound did not heal and was dripping. she went to our local er and they did a swab and said there was no infection. a week later, 2 weeks post op her entire incision opened up. she was transported to vermont where they did emergency surgery to clean out the wound. She was diagnosed with MARSA-Staff. 3 days later they went back in because the infection was worse, they removed the entire bone flap and stapled the incision closed with a drain in her face. Cry they also put a drainage tube in her spine to drain the spinal fluid to help keep the wound dry so it will heal. they said if there is a hole on the skull the spinal fluid will leak out. my sister was in the hospital for over a month she was sent home with a pic line and I-V antibiotics for 14 weeks, and still the wound would not heal. for 9 months she had a wound on her head.  Embarrassedthe surgeons say that surgery to replace the bone is more dangerous than leaving the bone out!! they sent her to a plastic surgeon for reconstructive surgery and he refused saying they do not get that close to the brain. I want to advise you before you have this done to think hard and realize it has never been done before in the USA or Japan Smiley, that we are aware of. i hope this helps we have opted to wait until there is some experince with this operation there is also a risk of reinfection and rejection of the prostetic. We wish you the best keep us posted Cheesy.
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Reply #6 - Nov 4th, 2007 at 9:46pm
 

thank you for the information.  i'll definitely have a conversation with my surgeon about his experience with this.  he spoke like he has done this before as did the nurses talk like they've seen this before. that said i have not asked about his experience.  he did advise me that they would not go ahead with the third surgery until he was sure the infection was gone.  i will keep you posted.

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Reply #7 - Nov 5th, 2007 at 4:27am
 
Debbie,
wow yes u have been through a lot but have an awesome attitude because attitude is what also heals us better.  so are u planning to have ur other side done or did it show unilateral?? how are the symptoms doing now?? i pray for your speedy recovery!!!

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Reply #8 - Nov 5th, 2007 at 9:07am
 
Hi

so far it is only on the one side.  my doctor has advised me that a year from my fisrt bypass i will have another angiogram and ct perfusion.  then from there he will do another in a year then 3-5 yrs.  he feels if the the other side is still good at that point he'll "cut me loose".  i haven;t had any numbness or tingling since September 19 just after my surgery.  and in fact i had only a couple of episodes of numbness and tingling in my face and hand since my stroke in september 2006. and that was over six months after my stroke which to be honest with you really scared me at the time because it hadn't happened in such a long time.  right now even though i've hit this bump in the road i know and believe that it is smooth sailing ahead.  i do believe in the power of positive thinking and it's ability to help heal.  Thank you for your interest it really helps to know you're not alone.  This is a great forum especially for someone who is relatively new to MM i've learned so much.

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Reply #9 - Nov 6th, 2007 at 1:46pm
 
Aimee

i thought i would let you know what i have learned since you posted your message.  it's possible there may be some differences between the infection i have and your sisters.  i've been diagnosed not with the MRSA bacteria but a normal bacteria that is found on the skin.  in the Ottawa Civic Hospital in Canada  where both surgeries were performed they tested me i believe it's for the MRSA when i arrived and when i left and thankfully i tested negative.  i did learn that the MRSA virus is very difficult to get rid of as you already know and there is only one antibiotic they can use to get rid of it.  i also asked some of the nurses and another nurse i know who works in icu about the surgery i'm to have to replace the bone and all have heard of it and think it's a relatively common procedure.  that said i have not spoken to my surgeon yet but i will hopefully tomorrow when i get my stitches out if not then i see him in early December.  i will also ask the infectious disease doctor who i see next week.  maybe he will have some information.  i hope i can get some information that can help both of us.  stay positive and don't give up.  my thoughts and prayers are with your family.

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Reply #10 - Nov 6th, 2007 at 5:49pm
 
Debbie,
Our prayers are with you as well. if you have a normal infection why are you seeing an infectious disease Dr.? My sister had to meet with the same kind of Dr's from the CDC, because this infection is dangerous. I am glad you do not have marsa but they also told my sister that the bacteria came from the skin. but they cleaned it out and it got worst i have reservations that the bacteria crawled up under the skull piece. I feel the bacteria in my sisters case was introduced by the saw they used to cut the skull bone, causing the bone to be the source of the infection. Just an opinion but if it was on the surface of the skin with antibiotic cream and cleanings kept as sterile as possible how do you get such an infection of the bone? Was your infection in the bone flap. I am assuming it is because they removed it. My sister has no bone and an indent in her skull and they left her that way and said there is nothing they can do. Due to financial problems she can not afford to go to Boston or california and see the specialists in the field. I hope in a few years we can save up enough to get her some where where they can help her.we wish you the best of luck please let us know how it goes!! Linee might post herself, she has some problems with these things but she will try. It might do her good to talk with you because she feels like she is the only one with this problem, and i believe you and her just might be!!
God bless you and yours.
take care of yourself!
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Reply #11 - Nov 6th, 2007 at 7:07pm
 
Hi Aimee

It's just procedure for me to meet with the infectious disease doctor.  i met with him in my surgeons office even prior to be admitted to Hospital.  and since i did have an infection they deferred to him in relation to appropriate antibiotics, i think initially prior to a swab if the infection being taken they were concerned it could be MRSA, but the didn't isolate me at all.  the bone flap was removed as there was some infection in contact with the bone.  my surgeon advised that they remove it as the infection may have entered the bone.  he didn't want to take any chances as the antibiotic cannot pass through the bone.  i am fortunate that my health care is free.  i am also following up with the infectious disease doctor as he is monitoring the antibiotics.  definitely have your sister email me as i'm getting the distinct feeling that we may be the only two that has this experience out there.  maybe contact Stanford or Boston to atleast get a consult about the prosthetic piece. although that may be disheartening if she cannot go through with the surgery.  once again my thoughts are with you and your family.  tell your sister not to give up hope.  an answer is out there.  either it will find you or you will find it.  keep me posted. i'll definitely be in touch.

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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 7:59pm
 
Hey Smitty,
    Did you see the report on MRSA on CBS news tonight?  That is #@*&^ scary!  The only problem I had after my bypasses was an infection around the injection site from my anti-coags. Sad  
Best of luck and love.     Newt
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