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Question: At what age were you or your loved one diagnosed with moyamoya?

0-9 years    
  144 (25.7%)
10-19 years    
  85 (15.2%)
20-29 years    
  95 (17.0%)
30-39 years    
  119 (21.2%)
40-49 years    
  72 (12.9%)
50 or more years    
  37 (6.6%)
I'm a family member, just checking the results    
  8 (1.4%)




Total votes: 560
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Age diagnosed with MM poll
May 14th, 2004 at 2:29am
 
I've added a modification to the board that will allow me to put up occasional poll's, such as this one, to see what certain ascpects in our demographics look like.

It is very important
that only ONE person from each family actually fill in the age to this poll
.  If in doubt, click the "family member" option.

I'd like to try and get a good idea how old the actual moyamoya sufferers were when they were first diagnosed.

I am also working on a very short demographics survey for the site, and a much more detailed survey for LisaH that will also be available soon.  For now, let's see how this one works out before I add any more poll's.

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Re: Age diagnosed with MM poll
Reply #1 - May 14th, 2004 at 8:40am
 
Hey DJ - Great idea.  I would also be curious of 3 other stats....

1.  How many people had a stroke before they were diagnosed?
2.  How many people were tested for MS, for example, and diagnosed with MM?
3.  How many people are of a Japanese decent?

These questions were subjects on prior posts, so I'm not taking credit!  But I think the polling mechanism is great and would give more solid results!

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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2004 at 8:42am
 
DJ---could you also set up some type of questionnaire/poll that asks questions such as:

How many people were misdiagnosed with another illness BEFORE the proper diagnosis was made, and if so, what was the illness that was improperly diagnosed?

How many people were discovered to have moyamoya disease as a result of suffering a mini-stroke or TIA?
a massive stroke? 

How many people were given steroids as a result of a misdiagnosis?  (as you know, this is extremely personal to me....)

Just some thoughts for future questionnaires..........also, for each respondent, the age of the person who was diagnosed with moyamoya should be set forth........Love, Pat Smiley Kiss

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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2004 at 1:45pm
 
hi,

i was 28 when i suffered a stroke and the er doctor ran an angiogram and sicovered i had moya moya. up until that time, i was diagnosed with ms a year prior to.

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Reply #4 - May 17th, 2004 at 8:36am
 
With the results as they sit now, no wonder they told me Tyler wasn't the right age for MM. Just goes to show not everyone will fit into the "norm".
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Reply #5 - May 17th, 2004 at 12:28pm
 
I hear you Rena MAndy neither.
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Re: Age diagnosed with MM poll
Reply #6 - May 19th, 2004 at 4:13am
 
Hi DJ and others!

I think this topic is an excellent idea and apart from the already mentioned I have a couple of questions that I´m curious about:

What medication are you on?
What kind of surgery did you have?
What kind of follow-ups do you have and how often?
Do you have symtoms from the disease regularly, what symtoms and how often?

I´m sorry but I could just go on and on because there is so little info for me to find as I have said before many times, so these answers seems important.
Would be great if you could make something out of all our questions and I think the results should be interesting to the experts too!!! Let´s face it;  there is not much research being done on this disease, no one ever contacted me about it for instance!
Do you know if there is ANY registration on MM:ers ANYWHERE in the world?

As I´ve said before; Keep up the good work DJ, You´re my hero! Without you and your site I would be all alone with my worries and questions!

Lots of hugs to you for all your efforts!

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Re: Age diagnosed with MM poll
Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2004 at 9:30am
 
Arianna never got a diagnosis of MM until November of last year.  Her vessels were 95% blocked by the time we could get her to surgery.    They really never did diagnos her with anything.  They kept looking for something genetic in the bloodwork and would not do and MRI.  She had seizures when she was 1 week old and was diagnosed with Hypocalcimia.  Her calcium went to 2--0 being dead, and her phosphorus when to 12.  Once we got that turned around we were told she should not have any problems down the road.  I think this masked a lot of her problems.  They kept wanting to go back to the HC and not look any further.  She was tentatively diagnosed with DeJorges Syndrome.  None of her blood work clarified any of it. 

What about any learning or behavioral delays?
Arianna had lots of those.

Any craniofacial deformities anywhere? 
In all of Arianna's medical records there is at  least one reference to the fact that she was "an unusual looking child".  She was.
Just some other questions?
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Reply #8 - Jun 23rd, 2004 at 1:30am
 
Good idea...Cara was having these involuntary left arm movements, dragging left foot, running into walls, walking like a little drunk...at the age of 2 1/2....after a five day hospital stay full of ALL KINDS of testing...wondering why she had these plus a VERY HIGH blood pressure...found she had extra artery in her kidney...it was then they found the abnormal artery network in her brain..."MOYAMOYA" came up but it wasn't until last week they "confirmed it".  So we were and have been watching it since she was 2.5 but was definitely MM at age six.
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Reply #9 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 8:59am
 
I was diagnosed with MM at age 50
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Reply #10 - Nov 2nd, 2004 at 11:23pm
 
At age 18
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Reply #11 - Nov 3rd, 2004 at 12:29pm
 
Sean was diagnosed at 3 yrs., 7 months.

He had surgery at 3 yrs., 9 months (6 wks after diagnosis)

He was diagnosed because no other "normal" explanation for stroke fit, and one doctor at our local hospital knew of Moyamoya and suggested a CT Arteriogram to look for MM.  (This doc used to work with Dr. Steinberg when both were at UCLA).

Now, one month post-op, the swelling is gone, the sutures have disappeared, Sean is back in pre-school and doing wonderfully ... he has more energy now than at any time in his life.

THANK YOU DJ for this site and message board ... we need to continue to get the word out about MM so others can have the results we have seen!
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Reply #12 - Nov 3rd, 2004 at 2:27pm
 
Kelsey was 9 when diagnosed with MM
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Reply #13 - Nov 18th, 2004 at 3:02pm
 
i was diagnosed with moyamoya at the age of 18 then they told me i didnt have it then at 20 they verified that it is definatly moyamoya
i was having seizures that they werent even sure if they was seizures and that was since i was about 8 i belive but now they say they were strokes that turned into seizures
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Re: Age diagnosed with MM poll
Reply #14 - Nov 19th, 2004 at 3:22pm
 
My son Michael was diagnosed with MoyaMoya at age 9.  The year before that they told me he had an inoperable blood clot in his carotid (sp?) artery. 

I'd be interested in knowing how many people only have one side affected by MoyaMoya. Also, out of those people who originally had MoyaMoya on one side, how long was it before the other side was affected.

I'm very worried about my son.  He had surgery for MoyaMoya on his left side last year.  His angiogram this year revealed that the site of the surgery is only providing blood to a very small part of his brain -- not the entire half that the doctor had hoped for.  Fortunately, the other half of his brain is supplying blood to the side with the surgery.  I'm very concerned about his 'good' side being affected by MoyaMoya some time in the future.  Where will his blood come from then??

Any information would be helpful...
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Re: Age diagnosed with MM poll
Reply #15 - Nov 19th, 2004 at 9:32pm
 
Hi:   

    I was diagnosed this last June (I think--some memory loss), but I've had seizures?? since the age of 4.  I was mis-diagnosed at 7 with Complex Migraine Seizure disorder. 

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Reply #16 - Jan 20th, 2005 at 8:35pm
 
Hello,
  I had some symptons for years but, was told it was
depression and anxiety, stress........had a MRI a few years back. was told it looked fine. Then July, 2005 I had an episode of becoming very fatigued, right sided weakness with numbness, trouble speaking. Went to the ER. they did another MRI said" it looked good". The symptoms got better overnight. The next day Did an MRA
it wasn't normal. The DR. Said to me "Things are messy" on the MRA and would send me to the proper DR. to figure it out. Another trip to the hospital  a few more tests. Then home again. Went to stroke clinic at UMASS
another bunch of tests, then the angio and there it was
the diagnosis. MM      I'm 33 years old Female.
I would hear this over and over . You're young and look healthy.    Looks can be decieving. Inside My head doesn't look like the normal healthy Brain.
I am going to learn more about this, and be positive.       Thank-you for this support group         
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Reply #17 - Jan 20th, 2005 at 9:37pm
 
Following a major stroke, I was diagnosed with mm at the age of 36.  I had been in the er 2 weeks before after passing out very briefly & feeling weak for the next few hours; I was sent home after being diagnosed as "dehydrated".  I had numb hands for several months & had "mm spells" before my major stroke, but never gave it much thought; just figured it was from overwork (which I did).  I was lucky when I ended up in the emergency room when I had my stroke that the neurosurgeon who did my angio  had seen mm once before, several years before that.  He advised against surgery because he thot it was worse than living with mm.  I didn't agree with him &, with Dr, Steinberg's help, I'm still here today, 7 1/2 years later!
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Reply #18 - Jan 20th, 2005 at 10:05pm
 
Debs...that is awesome !!!!  Thank you for posting your story.    Welcome to this site...and it sure helps to have someone that had surgery that long ago.  Do you have continous follow-ups yearly.  So good to have you here.

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Reply #19 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 3:29pm
 
Dear Carasmom,

Yesterday I was in the shower when I thot: "did I write 36 or 46 y.o. when I was diagnosed with mm?  When I looked today, I did put 36 rather than 46, which is the right year!! (I was 46!)   Wonderful effect of a major stroke:  The right info. is somewhere in your brain even tho it may take a few days to come to the right area!!! ~~I call it the Prego spaghetti effect~~it's "in there". It's good that I can still laugh at myself!! Smiley I went back to Stanford 6 mo., 1 year, & 2 years after surgery (from WI) and haven't been back since I didn't have more symptoms & that was about the time they were having problems with getting the zenon gas for the tests.  Since then I have had lots of problems with my heart (stents, 2 bypass operations & many more blockages with 9 additional stents)  My doctors are truly amazed at how I am "still alive" with all that I've been thru~~I'm hoping for more than 9 lives...Lately, I've had more dizzyness & other tia-type symptoms but try to take things a day at a time, not knowing if it's heart or mm related.  There are really no mm doctors in WI that I'm aware of.  I also ( a year ago) went thru a legal separation from my husband so I have to find someone else to help me drive in the bigger cities.  Every day brings a new challenge !!!  Thanks for responding!
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Reply #20 - Jan 31st, 2005 at 7:43pm
 
>What about any learning or behavioral delays?
>Any craniofacial deformities anywhere?   

All of the above for my daughter.  But they're far more related to her primary diagnosis of partial trisomy 6p, then to the Moya Moya.   Philina, it seems, is totally missing the main vessel that should transport the blood through the center of her brain, and she has stenosis of the supply lines through her neck too.  She was diagnosed with Moya Moya at 19 yrs of age, during a 3 1/2 month hospital ordeal of multiple complications, post aortic valve transplant surgery. 

Prior to that time, she had had 2, maybe even 3 small strokes.  But the temporary paralysis had spontaneously corrected itself so fast (within only hours in fact), that I couldn't get any doctor to acknowledge that they really were even strokes.  Initial diagnosis, as an infant, was "probable Herb's Palsy", and I was instructed to just watch her for seizure activity.  But this girl has never had a seizure in her life! 

Next known episode was at age 8, and on the opposite side of her body.   But at least this time the intake nurse in the ER got to see the paralysis, which had of course again disappeared before the doctor ever got around to seeing her.   Referred to a neuro this time, but EEG was fine, and MRI showed only some mild damage in her balance center.  Sort of a none event finding though since she was already roller skating.   

Next suspected episode around age 12.  No one actually saw this one, but she got off the school bus with a dark ring around her right eye.  Though there also had been a mini riot on the special ed bus that day, so we just naturally assumed someone had hit her in the melee.  But 10 yrs later, she's still got most of the discoloration around that eye, and some decreased muscle tone on that side of her face too.   

And her last "episode", after the heart surgery, that resulted in her diagnosis, I'm not even really sure was  Moya Moya related.   Here's the deal.  She had so many complications, and bad drug reactions after that surgery, that she ended up in an intentional drug induced coma for 7 weeks, on a heavy duty narcotic pain killer.   So when they finally woke her up, she had to be detoxed with Methadone too.   Poor kid was shaking pretty bad with DT's.  But neuro consult put her on massive doses of Phenobarbital "for seizure activity", on top of everything else.   Took me weeks to find a doctor who would even listen to me about her not needing the Phenobarb. 

Meanwhile the doctors were trying to figure out why she was unable to even smile or lift her head off the pillow.  First a repeat on the MRI, which showed the balance center problem was still there, but that was about it.  Followed up by an MRA, and a diagnosis finally that made some sense, and a feeling of real vidication for mom too.   

Open minded dr mentioned above, turned out to be the director the hospital's EEG lab.  So after about 15 minutes of looking through her old EEG reports, Dr Nespeca wrote up the order to start weaning her off of it.  She walked out of that hospital 3 weeks later, but still on fairly large doses of it, and a bit unsteady on her feet.  Once weaned all the way off though, she made a total recovery.   So who could really even tell if she'd had another Moya Moya event?   

Unfortunately, she's too old to be seen by him as an out patient, and the only neuro in his office who will see her is virtually worthless.  She doesn't even acknowledge the diagnosis as a fact, just as suspected.  Of course when I asked her for the date of the MRA, to order the report, she gave me the date for the MRI instead.  But I'd still rather keep Philina there, where I know there's at least someone in the office I trust, if we ever run into a real problem again. 

Besides, her ENT not only got me the date for the MRA, he just went ahead and made me a photocopy of both reports.  Current neuro also  has no objection to my giving Philina an aspirin daily, and neither does the cardiologist, so that's what we've been doing.   (Actually, that was recommended by a neuro at Hope Children's in Chicago during the '02  Support Organization for Families of Trisomy Conference's medical clinics...but whatever works.)   Since her episodes have always been so few and far between though, it's really hard to tell if it's been  any help or not.  Smiley

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Reply #21 - Jan 31st, 2005 at 8:03pm
 
Hi all,
  Mark is 22 never had a problem until September when he got bad headaches that didn't go away.  Kept getting worse even though he was getting a whole lot of meds.  He now remembers that he was always numb or tingly in his left hand and foot.  Never thought anything of it until the headaches.  The numbness has subsided since his surgery.  Still has some other issues though.
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Reply #22 - Feb 1st, 2005 at 11:05am
 
I was diagnosed at 40 years old. My identical twin was diagnosed one month before me!
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Reply #23 - Feb 4th, 2005 at 2:40am
 
I was diagnosed In 1999 December 25 with CVA(stroke).But I was diagnosed in January 2000 with a disected upper right corodit artery.than in Febuary 2004 I was diagnosed with a totally occulded right internal artery from the bifurcation and left internal artery stenosis at 80% with occlusion at M1 and pre-occlusion at the A1,moyamoya vessels present.
I was 42 at stroke,I was 46 at time MM was discovered

Hope that helps. Kevin

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Reply #24 - Feb 5th, 2005 at 4:21pm
 
I was diagnosed in august 1999, when I was 16.

First they(the doctors) thought that I had a brain tumour, since I do have another disease called Neurofibromatosis, and that can lead to tumours,
but later they found out that I had MM instead.

People tell me all the time that I look Asian...
I haven't got it verified, but my mom has said that her father looked very Japanese-like, perhaps I'm part Japanese.

I take Atenolol for my bloodpressure, and Trombyl, making my blood thinner, so that I don't get clogged bloodvessels.

as to symptoms, I still get bad headaches, and my arms get tingly, cold, and I loose control of my right arm and leg sometimes, making it hard to walk.
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