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Question: At what age were you or your loved one diagnosed with moyamoya?

0-9 years    
  144 (25.7%)
10-19 years    
  85 (15.2%)
20-29 years    
  95 (17.0%)
30-39 years    
  119 (21.2%)
40-49 years    
  72 (12.9%)
50 or more years    
  37 (6.6%)
I'm a family member, just checking the results    
  8 (1.4%)




Total votes: 560
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Age diagnosed with MM poll (Read 31150 times)
gotchlorine
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Reply #50 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 11:32am
 
Oh Mary Grace . . . you struck a chord with me when you spoke of the "mommy guilt".  There are a couple of incidents, one in particular, in Tara's younger years that I think we should have acted on.  The first - she was 11 and a synchronized swimmer at the time.  We were at one of her competitions.  She had gotten up with a fever that morning, but insisted on swimming, so we dosed her up with Tylenol and allowed her to compete.  In the middle of her duet competition, she suddenly was unable to stay above water.  She stopped, and managed to use her arms to get to the side of the pool.  Scared us half to death, but once out of the pool, she was o.k. within just a few minutes.  She described not being able to feel her legs when she was swimming, but we ended up chalking it up to the the fact that she seemed to have some sort of bug.  We'll never know for sure, but I think it was probably her MM.  The other incident occurred when Tara was 15.  She was sitting on her bed talking to me, and suddenly toppled over to the floor.  She immediately "came to" and we once again blew it off as a flukey thing.  Her only other symptom was the migraines she was diagnosed with at age 6.  Hindsight . . . . . why can't we have it sooner???

Believe me, I've beaten myself up over things, too, but what's important is that we've now taken care of the blood flow problems our kids had.  I worry about those who have been diagnosed with MM and don't pursue treatment.

Smiley Jill

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Reply #51 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 4:37pm
 
     Jill thanks for your response,I'm not the only mom carrying a little guilt with me.Most of the time I know it's really not rational ,but sometimes I just have to wonder if I had acted sooner would the outcome be different.Especially when I see pictures of Kathleen before her strokes.Hindsight is great if you can pass these little things along to others to use, but it sure does lend itself to some guilt when you let it.Most of the time I'm just happy she's here and alive and happy.Thanks Jill,I'm not alone, and this site always reminds me of that fact.
(((((((((HUGS)))))))))
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Reply #52 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 11:24pm
 
LOL although I dont have any daddy guilt with regards to MM, the potential was there, I was recently given 6 days to plan our trip to stanford, I was told on the phone that if that was not doable it could be done the end of November.A distant family member said youve waited this long whats 6 more weeks..............My thoughts were we have the premeir surgeon juggling to get him in ASAP, That states the urgency, and if we waited and something did happen how would we live withourselves
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Reply #53 - Oct 20th, 2006 at 9:31am
 
Mike your so right.Even though some people live a long time without a seriouse stroke it's a gamble that I would never take.In Early March of 02 kathleen was scheduled with Dr. Scott forJune.She had had her angio and it really didn't seem urgent but, about 2 weeks later she suffered another stroke.This is when Dr. Scott squeezed her in, in April.The day  we were driving to Boston she had another stroke (the day before surgery) it was decided to go ahead with surgery even though she had had a stroke because she was obviously declining very quickly.She had 2 more strokes between surgeries which were severe.Your right NO one should wait it would be like playing Russian Roulette in my opinion.Good for you, who wants to live with that guilt?
Mary Grace
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Reply #54 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 2:14am
 
I am new to the web site and message board.  My daughter was diagnosed yesterday at age 15.  She had been complaining of numbness in her left arm for the last year.  this summer it progressed to her entire left side and would last only a minute or 2.  I finally took her to a pediatric neurologist and the MRI gave us  the diagnosis right away.  She goes monday for an appointment with neuro surgeron (pediatric) in atlanta.  There is no history of this in either family and we are of typical anglosaxon background.  We are all still in shock.  The MD nor I thought they would find anything.  I am grateful to have found this website.  Thanks her worried mom.    Shocked
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Reply #55 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 2:53am
 
Dear Rosemary, 
 
Welcome to our family!  I am sorry about your daughter's diagnosis, but very glad you've found your way here!  This is a great place to learn about MM, and there are some wonderful people here, all who have traveled this road in one way or another.   
   
I am the mom of a 19 year old girl who was diagnosed and had two bypass surgeries in May/June 2004.  We consider ourselves very fortunate that our daughter had had "only" two small strokes prior to surgical treatment.   
   
The best thing you can do for your daughter is to read up and educate yourself about this disease.  As you become more familiar, you will understand that this is not a "wait and see" disease.  It is progressive, and ideally surgical treatment is obtained PRIOR to the damage that may be caused by a devastating stroke or hemorrhage.   
   
I don't know the details of your daughter's history, and I am definitely not a medical professional.  Unfortunately, the majority of the medical profession is just not well educated about MM.  A wait and see stance is not uncommon - be very aware of this.  The question you have to ask is, what are they waiting for?  This is a progressive disease that won't get better or improve with medicinal treatment.  The true experts, doctors who see it on a DAILY basis, are few and far between.  The leading specialists are located at Boston Children's (Dr. Michael Scott) and Stanford (Dr. Gary Steinberg).   Dr. Steinberg operates on both children and adults, and Dr. Scott primarily sees pediatric patients.  Both are happy to offer an opinion.  You might want to seriously consider sending your daughter's test results to one of them for a recommendation.  Another consideration to add to your thought process - the experts have anesthesia and nursing teams who see MM on a daily basis.  This is very important, as the neurosurgeon is just part of the overall care.
   
I don't want to frighten you, but as a mom, I'm sure you don't want someone who just dabbles with this disease to treat your daughter.  With the lack of MM knowledge amongst the medical profession, it is not unusual for people to have to travel away from home to seek good medical care for this disease.  I've met many people from out-of-state and out of the country who have come here (California) for treatment by Dr. Steinberg at Stanford.  It is commonplace - almost 400 surgeries (amazing when you consider that MM supposedly occurs in 1 in every 2,000,000 people!).  Dr. Scott also treats patients from all over.

To be forthright, I must say that I now work for Dr. Steinberg at Stanford.  After going through my daughter's surgeries, recovery, and then (on a volunteer basis) becoming very involved in supporting MM patients coming here from out of town, my job with them just kind of evolved.  Suffice it to say that I was so impressed with the program, becoming part of it seemed exactly what I was meant to do.  From a personal perspective, Dr. Steinberg is definitely my hero!   
   
Good luck to you as you continue the education process.  You and your daughter will be added to my prayers.  Please don't hesitate to ask questions (you'll have a million of them!), and I hope you can decide on a plan of action that seems to best suit all of you. 
 
Warmly, 
Jill   
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Reply #56 - Nov 20th, 2006 at 10:54pm
 
I would have to agree wholeheartedly with Jill's assessment of other neurosurgeons and neurologists.  When our daughter was diagnosed about 2 years ago, we had see 3 neurologists and 1 neurosurgeon before the we found the proper diagnosis.

Glad to say that we found this "community" and it has been a godsend to discover Dr. Steinberg.  Breeana had 2 surgeries (Direct & Indirect) in April/May 2005 and we thought she would be ok.  Now, almost 2 years later, the left side (did not have any surgery) has progressed to the point where she might need a direct bypass. 

What confounded my wife and I was that Breeana had a MRI/MRA done in August 2006 and our pediatric neurologist (from a world renowned hospital in Southern California) said he could not find anything wrong with her scans - no new strokes.  Luckily, we sent the scans to Dr. Steinberg for he and his team to review.  It was then that they found the left side has progressed.  Soon after getting the preliminary diagnosis, Breeana experienced an episode similar to the ones she had prior to the surgeries.  Because of this, it has prompted a near urgent round of testing to occur next week.

Why I wrote the above is to make a point about making sure to see doctors who have experience diagnosing MM.  We went through countless doctor visits and other tests before we found out.  Hopefully, others won't have to go through the trials and tribulations a lot of us have gone through.
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