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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #25 - Sep 13th, 2004 at 7:57pm
 
DJ wrote on Sep 13th, 2004 at 1:29pm:
I would hope this site is more about supporting people to find the right physician for their situation more than pushing one doctor or the other...


Ok - I have to add my thoughts....

When I came to this board my intentions were to find (in no particular order) 1) other people who were diagnosed with MM, 2) Opinions and actions that other people had taken, 3) Support and 4) Information.

Yes, this site is a great place to go for support.  But it is also a place to go for information.  I didn't want to hear just the good stuff...I wanted to hear all of it - what to expect - the good things and the stuff that is hard to hear.  I wanted to hear about the good doctors and the bad doctors....but it never took away the right to make my own opinions or choices.  As DJ said in another post - "Information is power"  The more information you have the better you are prepared to make the right decisions.
Just my  Smiley.

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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #26 - Sep 13th, 2004 at 11:43pm
 
I couldn’t agree with you more Shari, they are the same exact intentions I had when coming to this website, and yes we can make our own decisions, BUT... you are a long time member, you have to know for a fact that many come on here and DO NOT do the research that you and I have done. Yes DJ said, "knowledge is power" BUT… c’mon, what do you think DJ meant by his comments in his posts, honestly? I feel everyone is still NOT seeing DJ’s point. He is the Webmaster and has to oversee all that is said and done here in the best interest of future mmer’s who may not do the research that is needed and his point was, (IMO) NOT to forget what new mmer’s (searching as we did) want and need, and knocking any MM doctor, unnecessarily or trivially could harm a decision someone has to make. He just wanted us to see the bigger picture, BUT…instead, many turned it around. Shame on the several who implied that his comments were personal because it was Dr Steinberg or stated the original poster’ was treated badly, when he was NOT!! (Show me where??) DJ has ALWAYS had the best intentions for fellow mmer’s and this website and at NO time wavered from that, yet he got a slap in the face to imply otherwise, with NO respect for him or his opinion. Yes he has stated knowledge is power, PLEASE give him the credit he deserves for knowing the good and the bad of any doctor, and making our own decisions, that's common sense. He’s been there done that, but only wants to keep us knuckleheads on the right tract for the good of the website. I know for a fact he has saved many lives here and directed us faithfully to the few mm specialist that can handle our cases when others could not and to take it in another direction as many have done, saddens me.

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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #27 - Sep 14th, 2004 at 12:42am
 
There seem to be a couple of lessons we can all take from this thread.  First, there are times that HOW we say something is just as important as WHAT we say.  Nearly all of us here are under stress from the experiences related to this strange illness which connects us.  As such, we may tend to read things into what others say and should try to guard against this very human failing.   Wink
Secondly, and more importantly, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!  It is up to each of us, individually, to learn as much as we can about our own or our family member's illness and how it will affect every aspect of our lives.  I am blessed because my wife is a PICU nurse and we have cared for the seriously medically needy for the past six years in our home.  We have cared for 3 children who weighed under one pound at birth.  We have cared for 9 children who were three pounds or less.  One a daily basis, we have had equipment like oxygen concentrators, feeding pumps, even ventilators in our home.  With each new child's multiple diagnoses, we have had to educate ourselves on their medical needs while remembering to treat the child, not the disease processes they are experiencing.

Because of our experiences, when Sean was diagnosed with MM, we immediately knew where and how to search for the best, most reliable information.  (As I said, we are blessed.)  We knew how to sort through the myriad sources to discern which ones to trust and which ones to ignore.

Most of all, when we found DJ's links page and located the specialists, we knew that we had two very good choices to explore.  In our first email to Dr. Scott, we asked for a referral to someone who had performed at least 50 of these corrective surgeries.  Dr. Scott actually suggested that we might want to speak with Dr. Steinberg before deciding where to have Sean treated. 

We would feel quite comfortable with what we have learned about either of these men taking care of our son. 

It is my hope that any newbies who don't have the resources/experience that we do will not be deterred by any of the negative comments that have been aired here ... indeed, I would hope and pray that they would continue to learn as much as possible and find the best way to have their own loved one (or themselves) cared for during this difficult time.
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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #28 - Sep 14th, 2004 at 8:49am
 
Mar - I was only giving my opinion.  Take with it what you want.  I can't force people to do the research - I can only advise and give my opinion.

newmmdad - Thank you for your post.

I have the highest respect for DJ, and I don't want anyone to think otherwise.  I think newmmdad is right in saying that we need to be careful about HOW we say things.  It's very easy to get lost in the tone of our messages.  I personally advise people to read as much as they can on this board - to get as much information as they can - when new memebers join this family.

Again - just my opinion....

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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #29 - Sep 15th, 2004 at 12:22pm
 
newmmdad wrote on Sep 14th, 2004 at 12:42am:
There seem to be a couple of lessons we can all take from this thread.  First, there are times that HOW we say something is just as important as WHAT we say.  Nearly all of us here are under stress from the experiences related to this strange illness which connects us.  As such, we may tend to read things into what others say and should try to guard against this very human failing.   Wink

Thank you for your comments Steve!

It is said that 85% of the communication process is comprised of non-verbal communication.  Unfortunately, with a message board such as this, people can only read the words you type and miss out on that invaluable 85%.  You can't "read" a person's facial expressions, feelings, hand gestures, tone of voice, posture, or anything else in their typed words.  You only get the basic 15% of what they intend their message to be... the words.

I would bet about 85% of the messages on this board are misconstrued or "read into" by the reader because the author of the message wasn't able to completely convey how they could TYPE, exactly what they wanted to SAY.

Just remember... when you read a message on this board, you are only getting 15% of what the author intended to communicate to you.  Don't take everything so literally all the time!

-DJ

BTW, don't worry about me getting my feelings hurt by a post.  I'm pretty good about taking posts for the words, and not "reading emotions into them".  If someone gets me rialed up, I'll be sure to let them know.

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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #30 - Sep 16th, 2004 at 2:07am
 
Dj and Newmmday,

You guys are awesome.

You are the two most well centered people I have ever seen.  Your posts make me feel the true compassion that makes us a family.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.


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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #31 - Sep 21st, 2004 at 12:39am
 
DJ wrote on Sep 15th, 2004 at 12:22pm:
It is said that 85% of the communication process is comprised of non-verbal communication.  Unfortunately, with a message board such as this, people can only read the words you type and miss out on that invaluable 85%.  You can't "read" a person's facial expressions, feelings, hand gestures, tone of voice, posture, or anything else in their typed words.  You only get the basic 15% of what they intend their message to be... the words.

I would bet about 85% of the messages on this board are misconstrued or "read into" by the reader because the author of the message wasn't able to completely convey how they could TYPE, exactly what they wanted to SAY.

Just remember... when you read a message on this board, you are only getting 15% of what the author intended to communicate to you.  Don't take everything so literally all the time!



Why do you think I hardly ever come here any more?

1. I don't have the time, between working full-time and raising my 8-month old son.

2. I felt that no one ever understood anything I said, and I got attacked when people misunderstood my posts because they read into things incorrectly.

3. My loved one with MM felt unwelcome here, and eventually I did too.
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Re: Current Issues with Dr Steinberg/his office pt
Reply #32 - Sep 21st, 2004 at 3:33pm
 
Hi, everyone. Diane, I am so sorry that you and your sister ever felt unwelcome. For someone to feel unwelcome on a site that is supposed to be here for support is very sad indeed. As for all of this DR/ bad experience stuff goes, I think everyone has very valid points, but in the end, I think it should be up to DJ as webmaster to determine what should and should not be posted in the public boards, yet it is very respectible that he would ask the opinions of the rest of us as he did. And it is also MY OPINION that all of us should be able to voice our opinions as adults without becoming frustrated and cross and making people feel unwelcome or that they cannot speak their mind. Please just remember that this is a loving, support community and that we are supposed to be here for each other. Smiley Nikki
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