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Mar 20th, 2005 at 9:07pm
 
Well, this is MJS here. I haven't written much lately. Still having a hard time adjusting without my sister. Who was taken by this monster MM. But tomorrow, my oldest brother has his surgery. He has 70% blockage. He is really scared and nervous. But feels better knowing I have been learning so much about this MM. It has been almost a year now since my sister had her diagonise. My brother found out about two months ago that he also had it. So, I will be at hospital all day,,, and may not get an update on here until the next evening. They are saying at least 6 hours in surgery. I almost feel like I have been through this before,,, from others here telling their stories.  But this time,,, I am doing it in person. Will let you know more as soon as I can. Sincerely MJS
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Re: Brothers surgery tomorrow
Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2005 at 9:54pm
 
Good luck to you and your brother! I know it's hard not to, but try not worry. Everything will be fine. How are YOU doing? I hope as well as you can be. Let us know as soon as you can about how your brother comes out(and I know it will be good news Smiley) Hope to hear from you soon.
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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2005 at 1:28am
 
Dear MJS,

Speaking from experience, surgery days are long, painful ones.  You just want the doctor to come out and tell you everything went well.  The wonderful thing about your brother's case is that something CAN be done about it, so hang on to the fact that this is such a good thing!

Our hearts and prayers will be with all of you tomorrow.  We'll be waiting for an update whenever you can manage a post.

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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2005 at 9:26am
 
Many many prayers for you and your brother.The waiting is so difficult.
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2005 at 11:44am
 
After what you have been thru with MM, this has to be scarier than what I went thru with my son. I will be praying for your brother and you. Please try to take care of yourself thru this.
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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2005 at 11:54am
 
Hi MJS....know exactly how you feel in so many ways...when a love one that was a BIG part of your life...and YOU put your all into your sisters life...no longer is there...part of you still feels like you have to take care of her when really you don't.   I still feel that way when I go to my moms...even this morning...I keep waiting for Dad to come around the corner in his wheelchair (been gone almost 8 weeks but I also lost my father n law two weeks ago).    And your brother probably very thankful that YOU know about MM...and to have you on his side....and you probably know more about it than most of the staff at the hospital and will be sure he is on the right track.  Will keep him and your family in my thoughts and sending lots of prayers your way.   hugs,  carasMOM
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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2005 at 3:47pm
 
My thoughts and prayers are with  you and your brother. Please let us know how everything goes.

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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2005 at 9:49pm
 
So far all is well. He came through the surgery well. We got to talk to him for a few minutes. BUT<<<< the bed they had for him, in the critical care unit,,, was taken by an emergency patient. So he has to stay in the intensive recovery room for the night. No one allowed there or to call and check on him but his wife. There was alot of things they were not told, so I was filling them in on alot of it. Like the swelling, brusing that will come. I am so glad that I knew alot from reading everyones messages here.  The doctor was a little worried that the new blood flow may not work,,,, but said all is going well for now. Something about putting it in backwards????? So it will be slower to take off well and quickly.  It wasvery hard for me,,,, and yes, it was said right. It is hard to stop caring for Bonnie,,, my sister. Then seeing my brother so scared this past week was the worst for him. Then seeing him after the surgery,,,, knowing he was going to the same unit Bonnie was in when she was diagonised.  The receptionist there even remembered me!!!!!!!!!! She came to me and asked if I had been there before with a sister!!  I was really surprised. But so many thoughts came flooding back, memories,,,, it was really hard. But I know she is with him,,, Her and God together. They are bringing him through this. Thank you all so much. But as I said, the doctor was somewhat worried about the next few hours. So I will update as I can.   MJS
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2005 at 10:08pm
 
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Reply #9 - Mar 25th, 2005 at 10:30pm
 
Well, so much for a good hospital! Luckily,, my brother came through pretty well. BUT<<< the first 24 hours were spent in the recovery room, as they had no room for him at all. He was not able to rest at all. Bad headaches,,, giving him only Tyelnol 3 for pain. Doc saw him for about three minutes the next morning. No one could visit with him, as they can't let many people into the recovery room at this hospital. 30 hours later, he gets a room. Less than 48 hours post surgery,, doctor removes his bandage wrapping ( nicking his forhead with the siccors),,, and sends him home. NO instructions, limits, etc.  He is doing fairly well,,, but is slow at thinking.  Like he is doped up on a bunch of hard drugs. Which he isn't!  Thinking process takes him about 10 minutes to get it going. He is having trouble sleeping. He said they were giving him IV steriods at the hospital,,, and he figured that they were still in him,,, keeping him awake.  But he seems content.  Let me know what you all think   MJS
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Reply #10 - Mar 26th, 2005 at 12:16am
 
MJS - so glad to hear he is doing well.   They gave Cara steriods to reduce the swelling..removed her bandage less than 12 hours and put on one not so tight which came off less than 3 hrs..so she was more comfortable without the bandage...was able to wash her hair at 24 hours...water run through but not soak head in water for 6 weeks.  I read somewhere it took time for someone to get the steriods all out of their system..kind of made them jumpy, irritable...funny moods...varies from one person to another.   Another thing..."walking" around, moving around also reduces swelling, too. Will keep your brother in my prayers, too.  Tight Hugs,  CarasMOM
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Reply #11 - Mar 26th, 2005 at 11:03am
 
The healing process is so different for everyone, and the fact that your brother couldn't rest well right after surgery has to have some affect on him.

With MM I have learned that two cliches (sp) are very true: "Knowledge is power!" and "Time heals!"

Just take it slow and trust your instinct. If your brother is comfortable and content, then he might just need rest and time. If he gets uncomfortable and worried, then talk to the doctors. So little is known about MM, but it seems when people just listen to their bodies they knew what to do as far as seeking additional help.

I will keep you and your brother in my prayers.

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Reply #12 - Apr 2nd, 2005 at 9:36pm
 
Sorry I haven't been on here for awhile,,, but have had to babysit grandkids,, as they were on spring break. Anyway,,, about my brother. For one, I was NOT impressed at all by the doc. Seems like after the surgery,,, he assumed he had done his part,,, and that was that!!! They released him on the third morning. That was less than 48 hours after surgery. He had only been up and walking once. No instructions at all,,, just call the office to remove stiches.  So,,, Thursday,, he had his stiches out that morning. His wife took him home,,, and she returned to work. When she came home, she found him unable to move his right side(surgery was on the left), and slurring his speach. Called for medics, and they go to hospital. (But not the one he had the surgery at). Docs say ct scan shows a small TIA. Much smaller than the ones he had back in Nov. But those did not leave him in this bad of shape. They say he needs stronger blood thinners. If he could tolarate them, he could go home within 24 hours. At 20 hours, he has another one, with headache, numbness on left side of face, hand etc. Now they say he has some fluid,,, probably post-op. But should be fine. Keep him another night,,,, he has two more. Now he is sleeping alot. They say they cannot do an MRI or MRA for 30 days after surgery. It could be bad for him somehow. But if he goes 24 hours without a spell, they will send him home. The surgeon was there to see him this morning.  What do you all think???   MJS
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Reply #13 - Apr 2nd, 2005 at 11:37pm
 
MJS,

Speaking from my own experience, I did have a small stroke after my second surgery.  And there can be effects from that and depending on what side the surgery was whether they are severe or not or what happens. 

I can tell you the fact that the doctor did not come to check on him after the surgery is odd.  And I can tell you the fact that the doctor said he cannot do an MRI/MRA for 30 days after the surgery is a crock of you know what.  I know for a fact that I had an MRI after both surgeries and that was with Dr. Steinberg.  So I think the other doctor is pulling your leg on that one. 

I hope things get better for your brother and I will keep him in my thoughts and prayers.  Please keep us informed of how things go.

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Reply #14 - Apr 3rd, 2005 at 2:02am
 
HI MJS...

....wonder if he still has some swelling especially if he was released that soon and he went back to normal routine little too fast....the swelling Cara had was after the stroke after her first surgery (right side)....but the stroke was on her left side and she couldn't use her right side so we knew it wasnt from the surgery but to ease it a little they gave her steroids to help with the swelling so wont put so much pressure on the left side.   

Cara was up once or twice before we were released on the fourth day, then the fifth day we left the hotel to go to the airport and of course the whole thing was TOO much...she had another stroke but I didn't notice it but I realized something happened after we got to chicago...and still had to go a long ways to the gate for our plane to Phx...I had to carry her until I found a wheelchair not being used...she was in another world...slept the whole flight home....got stronger as time went on....but when we returned to Rochester for her second surgery and they checked her out...noticed that she must have had another stroke from the time we left after 1st surgery til we got back for the second...so I guess that happened at the airport.

Dr. Meyers advised against stronger blood thinners as it might cause a cerebral hemmorage in Cara..this was when she was having all those TIA's. 

And Cara's neurologist in Phx and primary doctor both felt no need to put her through MRI or MRA yet either.

I was like you...especially with her surgeon being halfway across the country....wondering if Im doing enough for Cara.  Her neurologist here in Phx said that Cara was more protected than she ever was in her life now that she had both surgeries....she just needs to heal.  But I still felt I needed to do something or the doctors aren't doing enough.

They did Cat Scans after her surgeries which would show anything abnormal...if something looked out of the ordinary...then they would go further with maybe an MRI....but no need to put her through that...its brain surgery, lots of rest is important.

I wish I could help you more...seems like everyone has a different recovery case but I seemed to gain from hearing everyone's experiences and hope and pray that we are doing enough for Cara.  I ll keep your brother in my prayers. Tight hugs,  CarasMOM
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Re: Brothers surgery tomorrow
Reply #15 - Apr 3rd, 2005 at 9:59am
 
Seachelles wrote on Apr 2nd, 2005 at 11:37pm:
And I can tell you the fact that the doctor said he cannot do an MRI/MRA for 30 days after the surgery is a crock of you know what.  


I agree!  I had a stroke after my second surgery and they rushed me to do an MRI and CT Scan.  (They did it after my first surgery as well as I was having constant TIA's.)

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Reply #16 - Apr 3rd, 2005 at 3:56pm
 
Dear MJS,

The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me!  Obviously I'm not there, and don't know the intricacies of the care that was given to your brother.  But, it sounds like they kind of washed their hands of him once surgery was complete.  And I agree with Michelle and Shari - I've not heard of an MRI being damaging to a surgery patient.  My daughter Tara also had an MRI (and EEG and CT scan) within a couple of days of her second surgery, just to make sure everything was o.k., as she had some excessive swelling in her brain. 

If your brother doesn't show improvement soon, I think I would start asking a whole bunch of questions!  Please keep us posted when you can, and we'll keep the prayers coming.

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Reply #17 - Apr 3rd, 2005 at 6:28pm
 
MJS,
I just had my surgery March 2 and 9th, following my second surgery I had difficult speaking and getting words to come out of my mouth.  Dr. Steinberg immediatley did a MRI to see if there was any brain swelling, there was, so I was put back on steroids to alleviate the swelling...within hours my speach was back to normal.  With the steroids they have to slowly wean you off of them but they worked for me, maybe this is something you can mention to the doctors?? But as far as them saying you cannot have a MRI or CAT scan that is simply NOT TRUE!!  I would certainly get another opion.
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Reply #18 - Apr 4th, 2005 at 3:51am
 
MJS,

Haven´t posted you since your sister died and I just want to say that I´m so sorry for your loss. I really admire what you did taking care of your sister all this time and I hope you know in your heart that you gave her the best anyone can possible ask for in her situation. I work in a palliative homecare-team and I really must say that you did a fantastic thing for your sister.
When it comes to this MRI -MRA-discussion I am sure the doctors are trying to get away too easy, I simply would not believe them! These tests are being taken all the time to diagnose stroke or hemhorrage or all kinds of brain damage while the patient is in trauma so I´d say they are giving you a lot of bull.....
Get a second opinion and try to get some other doctor is my advice!!

Good luck and take care!

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Reply #19 - Apr 17th, 2005 at 10:56pm
 
Hello everyone. Sorry I haven't written for awhile,,, but writing seems to get harder and harder each day.  As of April 26, it will have been one year since we started with MM. That is when my sister had her bleed and diagonises.  Anyway,,,, my brother was finally put on a seizure med. I told him he needed it,,, but of course, the doctor though different. But when he went in for his checkup last week, he was having a "spell" at that time. The doc finally decided it was a seizure type thing. But they put him on a high dose,,, so he is having problems with the strength. I told him to cut it down for a few days and see how he does. But he will also see the first neuro doc. (the one that referred him to the surgeon) this week. I hope he will discuss it at length with him.  The surgeon still sticks with the fact that they could not do and MRI as it was dangerous.   Shocked  If I were able to be face to face with him I would laugh in his face.Smiley  Anyway,,, I am having a hard time as this April date comes closer. Maybe I will be able to write more after it has come and gone. Right now,,, I just try not to deal with it. I still read all that is going on here though. So many I should reply to,,,, just can't seem to get myself to do it yet.  But you all are doing a great job ;Grin, as usual!!!!!  I will be back when I can. But I am still here. I have copied alot of info off many posts,,, and will deliver them to my brother tomorrow.  He is afraid he will get too much info, and scare him. So I have gotten the best info,,, without it being scary to him. I will let you know how it goes. Bear with me.  Sincerely,,,, MJS
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Reply #20 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 5:21am
 
MJS,
Sorry to hear your brother is still having so much trouble, even with all the trouble he seems to be having getting the doctors to listen, atleast the surgery is done. The healing process is rough on a lot of people, but he is healing, not getting worse.

With all you have been through everyoe understands. We all have watched a loved one deal with MM, but you have seen the worse case scenerio (sp?). Just keep pushing the doctors to listen and try to be patient with the healing process.

I will keep you in my prayers, Rena
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Reply #21 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 6:53am
 
MJS,

I will be keeping your brother in my thoughts and prayers. 

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Reply #22 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 12:08pm
 
Dear MJS,

I can only imagine how you must feel . . . especially with the April date approaching.  You've certainly had more than your fair share, and I'm sure it's very hard to understand why this happens.  It's seems so cliche to say this, but God won't give any of us anything we can't handle.  Please know that we're also there with you, supporting you through these difficult times.

Come back when it's comfortable for you.  I'm glad you're reading and drawing whatever you can from here.  Take care . . . you and your brother will remain in our prayers.

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Reply #23 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 12:59pm
 
Jill,
   They say God won't give us more than we can handle but my experience is he's pushing the wire big time, why thats the big question! What a plan, I wish he counted my family out I could have lived without it for sure. I've learned enough of lifes lessons with my son dying, enough to last a lifetime. Apparently I missed something.
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Reply #24 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 4:27pm
 
Nancy,

I can't (and won't) pretend to begin to imagine how you feel after what you've gone through with your family.  We're all human, and we question why things happen to us.  I wish I could answer everyone's questions, including those of my own family.  I believe that we will understand . . . someday . . . but that's after this lifetime.  Until then, we place our faith where we choose, and go from there.  I am sorry if I offended you.

The fact that you're here offering support to others is testament to the strong woman you are.  I hope to be part of your support system, and hope you know that you have a friend out west thinking of you frequently and keeping you in her prayers.

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