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Apr 16th, 2005 at 3:16pm
 
My 5yo daughter started having problems when she was 3. She had unexplained vomiting for 3weeks that her doctor thought was viral. When she did not get better I finally took her to the er and they did an CT scan that led to MRI and angiogram. her neurosurgeon have only said possible moyamoya he will not give a definate diagnose. He has put her on aspirin a day. We will do a fu angiogram next year. I have sent her records to Dr. Steinberg who does think she has mm but I do not have the money to go to Stanford. My question is Who DO I GO TO FOR A SECOND OPIOION in TEXAS?????  I've heard there is a Dr. dauser and i will try to contact him does any one else know of anyone in Dallas/Fort Worth? Undecided
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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2005 at 8:42pm
 
Hi... I was wondering if you've seen the section on this board where people post about their moyamoya surgeons.

It's on the main page of the moyamoya message board, right under "moyamoya related information and support" and is called "surgeons with bypass experience"

I saw that someone there posted a good review of Dr. Dauser, at Texas Children's, and there were a couple of other doctors in Texas who were mentioned.  I'd definitely go to one of those doctors ASAP for a second opinion... a year to wait for a diagnosis is just ridiculous. If Dr. Steinberg thinks your daughter has moyamoya, then I would bet that he's right (he did my duaghter's surgery this March)

How is your daughter doing?   I hope she's feeling better.   Good luck, I really hope you're able to talk to a good doctor with mm experience soon!

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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2005 at 11:58pm
 
yes she is doing fine. She has not had any further complications since the initial vomiting. Her neurosurgeon is taking a lets wait and see approach since she is normal and developing just fine with no complaints.  My worry is what if something happens isnt it better to do something like surgery now while she is healthy rather than wait until she has a stroke or seizure?

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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2005 at 12:54am
 
Tracy,

I saw a nuerosurgeon here in the Washington, DC area after I was diagnosed with MM and was told the same thing.  I'm already grown and was having active TIA's.  This is not the response that you should want or get.  If your daughter's neurosurgeon was indeed familiar with MM or a specialist in MM, then he/she would know better than to give that kind of response.  This is NOT a wait and see type of disease.  I'm with Jenny on this......if Dr. Steinberg believes your daughter has the disease, then he is more than likely right.  He did my surgeries.  You shoud act as soon as possible.  Get a second opinion if you need to, but if I had Dr. Steinberg's opinion, then I would not go for another one.  And if you had an MRI on your daughter in December of 2004, then she should not need another one now.  When was her last angiogram? 

And you are right, Tracy.  DO NOT wait for her to have a seizure or stroke before taking care of this.  I was told by Dr. Steinberg that if I had not had the surgeries, then I was on the verge of having a major stroke that could have been debilitating.  And if I had followed the neurosurgeons advice of waiting and seeing, then I could have had a lot of problems from a major stroke or not even be here today.  I encourage you to read the following article http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=26780

Also, it is important to know that your daughter can have moyamoya and have problems and then go for awhile without any problems only to have them come back months later.  I know.....because that happened to me.  I would think that something was going on, but then not have any TIA's for months. 

Let me know if I can be of assistance or help in any way.  You and your daughter will be in my prayers. 

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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2005 at 9:56am
 
Tracy,
I was told "possible MM" for my son Tyler also. He was 11 YO when he had a full stroke that lead to the "possible" diagnosis. The doctors here (Colorado) were talking about surgery, but wouldn't answer my questions and would even ignore them. They didn't even seem worried about when to do the surgery, just that they wanted to do it. When I asked them to send Tyler's records to Dr. Steinberg, they suddenly scheduled a surgery, yet still wouldn't answer my questions. When I told my Nuerologist why I was fighting to take Tyler to CA, Medicaid thought we should have the CO doctors do the surgery, he stepped up to bat for Tyler.

I also didn't have money to travel to CA, but I did fundraising. Medicaid had only agreed to CA if I only asked for them to pay hospital bills only, no travel expenses. We made it to CA and everything is doing well now, but it still scares me to think of what could of happened if I hadn't fought so hard.

So please don't wait, get into contact with Dr. Dauser or find a way to Dr. Steinberg ASAP.

Seeing your child after a stroke is horrible, you have a chance of preventing this with your daughter, please don't "wait and see". Since Dr. Dauser has a good review posted, it would be easier for you to go there and atleast you know someone has had a good experience with him. Right now time is your enemy.

I hope I didn't scare you too badly, but I just don't want your daughter to have to suffer because of a doctors inexperience.

I will keep your family in my prayers, Rena
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2005 at 11:00am
 
Tracy,

This is not a wait-and-see disease.  My sister, Patty, had a wait-and-see doctor.  We waited and saw the results after a devistating storke which left her blind, on a feeding tube, on briefs, and a quadraplegic.  After she was airlifted to the facility - the doctor actually asked - Why didn't we do the surgery before.  He said this to 4 people. 

If moyamoya.com was here before I would have carried her on my back to a moyamoya specialist. 

Patty does OK now, but has 18 hour a day care.  She can see, weaned off the feeding tube, does OK with bathroom (but we have to use a lift to get her on a shower chair), is still basically a quad.  She has good control of her right hand/arm but  still cannot walk.

I do not want to seem like a downer --I love Patty and will do anything for her but I wonder what her life would be like if she had seen a mm specialit.   Especially having the surgeries before a major stroke.

Janice
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Reply #6 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 8:12am
 
Red,
           My daughter was misdiagnosed for a year before her true diagnosis of MM which in fact caused her to have 4 devistating strokes. The original surgeons told me to wait at least a year. Dr. Steinberg did the surgery in a month after sending her films and saved her life. Imagine waiting a year after 4 strokes, theres no doubt in my mind she would not be here. You CANNOT wait and see.........MM waits for no one. My daughter was in a coma for a week, she can walk and talk but has no use after 2 years of her left arm, her left leg although she walks is weak and drags a bit, and has poor circulation. Her mental state has been affected quite a bit. Please do not wait get your daughter help ASAP. Our intention is not to scare you but make you aware of how dangereous this disease is, so your child doesn't suffer like ours did. Your daughter and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers. Plaese ask as many questions as you can we're here to answer and support.
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Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 9:29pm
 
Undecided I sent Andrea's records to Dr. dauser's office to day so hopefully i will hear something soon.  I was just wondering how many others had to see other specialist. Andrea has seen a hematologist, a genetics doctor, a opthamologist and a retina specialist all for the findings on MRI's.  I now wondering if it is because my neurosurgeon just was trying to get other peoples opinion or if just doesn't know how to treat this.

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Reply #8 - Apr 20th, 2005 at 8:41pm
 
Cheesy We have an appt with Dr Dauser on 6-28-05 so hopefully we willfind out something and get our second opinion.
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Reply #9 - Apr 20th, 2005 at 11:33pm
 
Cool Great News!!! Smiley

Keep us updated,  I will keep your family in my prayers.

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Reply #10 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 11:28am
 
Tracy,

My daughter has seen many other specialists along the way, but that was before moyamoya was diagnosed, and all the symptoms she was experiencing (i.e. she has cortical visual impairment from having seizures, and so saw an opthamologist etc.)

I do think the hematologist would be a good specialist to see.  When Daphne was dx with moyamoya and had two strokes, they did all kinds of blood tests to make sure she wasn't genetically predisposed to blood clots.

The geneticist might be worth seeing.... although they haven't pinned down really what causes moyamoya.   There are several syndromes associated with moyamoya,  but if your daughter's been developing normally, I doubt she has one of them.

I am really curious as to what findings on an MRI would lead you to see an opthamologist and retina expert.  I am curious because Daphne has optic atrophy and chorioretinal scarring, and this does not appear to be linked with moyamoya (she had a virus as a young infant that these eye findings appear to correlate with).   I've done some reading, though, and there is one report where chorioretinal atrophy and optic atrophy was caused by moyamoya.  Confusing!

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Reply #11 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 2:46pm
 
I was told by her neurosurgeon that she should have a good eye exam every year, so that her eyes are dialated that way they can take pictures of the blood vessels and keep track of any changes because the vessels in the eyes are very similar to thos in the head and can possible show strokes. there is an article i read on www.newscientist.com/article.ns.id=dn1388  that shows this in older patients.

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Reply #12 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 3:48pm
 
Hi Red -

Might also want to have her eye doc test for "field of vision" or "vision fields."  This test shows any nerve damage as the result of stroke.  I have it done every 6 months.  Just an FYI....

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Reply #13 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 10:12pm
 
I made an appointment for Daphne with her neuroopthamoligist.   I am really curious as to whether her eye issues could be from moyamoya (seems like everything else she's suffered from has a moyamoya tie-in.  Even her heart defect was a narrowing of the aorta - coarctation of the aorta - which I've seen go along with moyamoya in reports).  The last time the neuropthamologist saw her, Daphne had not been diagnosed with Moyamoya, and he thought her eye findings were consistent with CMV (cytomegalovirus), even though they were only prominent in one eye (the right) and she's had no other CMV symptoms. 

Her MRA showed that the opthalmic artery on the opposite side was enlarged??

Daphne also was scheduled for an ERG (to test her retinal function) in January, but that month she ended up having her heart surgery, two strokes and the moyamoya diagnosis, so we never ended up going!

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