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Dewski
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What is going on???
Oct 5th, 2005 at 9:52pm
 
I so want to be able to say that we are back from Boston and everything went awesome and Mikeman has all this extra energy --- but that just isn't the case.   Undecided

This morning, my wife and I watched (and logged) Michael, as he had 30 mini seizures, one about every 10 minutes.   Smiley

He has never had seizures like these.  These were very small - smaller than what we are used to calling "TIAs".  These lasted at the MOST 10 seconds, and he was alert the entire time.  They didn't seem to bother him and he didn't even appear to lose his stride in whatever activity he was dewing at the moment.  His right hand would tremble a bit, almost like ataxia with a bit of rigidness, but nothing wrong at all on his left.

We called his pediatrician, his neuro, Dr. Scott...  His neurologist increased his Keppra (sp) and told us to give the meds 2 hours.  It was like someone had just reached down and took the problem away, but in 1 hour and 45 minutes, these endless seizures STOPPED.  They didn't slow down, or lessen in intensity, or come less and less frequent...  They just stopped.  I think I'll chaulk this one up to Divine Intervention.   ;Grin

We were trying to think it all through most of the day.  My wife thought maybe the blood flow to the surgery side was going so well, that the other side was trying to keep up with it?  Did he lose too much blood during surgery and maybe we should have gone with a transfusion?  Is he not healing properly?

Dr. Scott said that it was "impossible" that the non-surgical side was trying to keep up with the surgical side because it simply doesn't work that fast.  He also agreed with Mikeman's neuro - to ssslllooowwwlllyyy increase his Keppra.

Appearantly Mikeman isn't even on the lowest reccomended dose for children with TIAs and Moyamoya.  (1000mg/day).  Average dose is 1000-3000mg/day.

I guess we just keep on keepin' on!   Wink Cheesy

-= Dewski =-
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Shan
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Re: What is going on???
Reply #1 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 10:19pm
 
Dewski,

Glad to hear you're home...home on the range.  Although, the 30 mini seizures you wrote about scared the heck out of me! Shocked Did Mikeman know he was having them?  Bottom line is, I'm glad they stopped.  Has he not had any since the increase in Keppra?  How has he been since the reaction to the supplement (B12?)?  Is he also taking Niacin?

Please give the Mrs a big  Smiley, as I know she is probably very worried and trying to figure out why things are happening.  We continue to pray for Mikeman and your family, as well as Tom and the rest of our MM family here...Together, we will all endure and overcome the obstacles and challenges this rare (?) disease brings.

Michael has proven himself to be a true fighter...so just consider this another battle that he will overcome and conquer!

Take care,
Shan
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Re: What is going on???
Reply #2 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 10:46pm
 
Dewski,

Hi.... I'm glad to hear that you are home, but sorry about the seizures Mike is having  Undecided

I'm not sure what to tell you, except to share our experience that Daphne had a scary break-through in seizures about three months after her surgery.  Her doctors attributed it to a need to increase her vigabatrin (her seizure med), but after much tinkering around we, too, felt like there was something "more" than seizure med levels going on.

Daphne's doctors - of course - didn't agree with me, but I attributed it to the new blood flow.  I thought that there might have been places that hadn't gotten sufficient blood for quite awhile, and that the return of any blood supply to these areas could cause some temporary excitement.   Dr. Steinberg's nurse told me that with the most severe cases, they often see the most dramatic results after surgery (Daphne was one of those severe cases, and had  dramatic results in her follow up studies)

Of course you never want to assume seizures are "good" things -- if anything I think I am prone to read into things in a "rose colored" light when it comes to Daphne --- I'm her mom, though, I can't help it  Wink

I'm glad the seizures have stopped.... I hope that with the continued increase in Keppra, you keep those nasty seizures away.

Jenny
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Re: What is going on???
Reply #3 - Oct 6th, 2005 at 7:43am
 
Dewski,

I'm glad to hear you are home.  I'm sorry to hear about Mikeman's seizures. I know it is scary.

It appears seizure activity occurs more often than not after this type of surgery. Nothing scientific, just experience and hearing others stories. I can tell you that Kevin (Cubbie) never had seizures until after his surgery. He had TIA's but not seizures.  Kevin's seizure, we're told, was caused as a result of the weak blood vessels around his initial stroke picking up the new blood flow and those vessels were to weak to handle the new blood flow and as a result, spilled the blood into the brain.  At that point, he had seizures. He was also put on Keppra.  The fortunate thing, in Kevin's case, is the brain absorbed the blood so no need for a third surgery and he has not had that kind of seizure since however, he continues to take Keppra. Also, after Kevin came home, he couldn't sleep. His primary care doctor put him on Ambien. His eyes started a rapid movement (like seizure activity) and that was scary. Of course we stopped the Ambien immediately and the rapid eye movement stopped. Perhaps the introduction of new meds, different combination or different doses plays a roll to seizure activity in some and the brain bypass itself is a new thing to the system.  I, like you, did a lot of watching and analyzing.  It drove me crazy.  Now, whenever anything occurs that is like a seizure, TIA or different or unusal, I simply call the doctor. Kevin also experiences tremors. Of course he had tremors before the 2 direct bypasses then they subsided after the surgery but I have noticed the tremors increasing again. Don't have a clue why. He has a doctors appointment tomorrow and that will be on the agenda.  This may not be of any help at all to you in Mikeman's situation.  I, like Jenny, can only share with you Kevin's experience.

The good news is Mikeman's seizures have stopped.   Hopefully the increase in Keppra will resolve the seizure activity.

Please keep us posted on Mikeman. He, like Kevin, is unique.    

Hugs,

Lore   

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Re: What is going on???
Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2005 at 8:11pm
 
Shan wrote on Oct 5th, 2005 at 10:19pm:
Dewski,

Glad to hear you're home...home on the range.  Although, the 30 mini seizures you wrote about scared the heck out of me! Shocked Did Mikeman know he was having them?

They definately do much for morale around here either!    Smiley  It's a hard call to say if Michael honestly knew or not...  They were so fast, and we asked him to tell us when he starts "feeling funny" and he never did.

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Bottom line is, I'm glad they stopped.  Has he not had any since the increase in Keppra?  How has he been since the reaction to the supplement (B12?)?  Is he also taking Niacin?


He has not had any problems since the Keppra increase.   ;Grin  The supplement was something similar to Acidophulus.  (sp)  It was supposed to help him increase the "good" bacteria in his body because he was so sick to his stomach for so long.  We've never heard anything about MM and Niacin...

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Please give the Mrs a big  Smiley, as I know she is probably very worried and trying to figure out why things are happening.  We continue to pray for Mikeman and your family, as well as Tom and the rest of our MM family here...Together, we will all endure and overcome the obstacles and challenges this rare (?) disease brings.


Everyone here has been a huge help.  Thank you!   ;Grin

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Michael has proven himself to be a true fighter...so just consider this another battle that he will overcome and conquer!

Take care,
Shan


He is definately a trooper!  Hands down!

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Re: What is going on???
Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2005 at 10:11pm
 
Hi Dewski,

I was really never one to take vitamin supplements until my neuro prescribed Niacin (B3). It is suppose to help me because it dilates blood vessels, it brings more oxygen to the brain, and helps remove lipids from arterial walls.  It also is a cholesterol-lowering agent, and has definitely reduced my cholesterol level to below the normal <200 as recommended by the American Heart Association. It reduces the liver's ability to produce very low-density lipoprotein, the precursor of LDL.  I read that it is also used to treat disorders such as arthritis, coronary heart disease, diabetes, etc. Here is an abstract I found on a 1-year study of Niacin affecting Carotid IMT (not necessarily MM)
http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/24/12/1779
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Anybody else recommended to take Niacin?   Smiley I haven't seen Niacin brought up anywhere else, so it could be just me.  Undecided hmm... Dewmeister, if Dr. Scott felt Mikeman needed to be on it, he would've recommended it, so don't even worry/think about it.  Mikeman has enough to worry about.  Please tell him that we're thinking of him, and hopefully we'll all get to meet him at one of our reunions some day and give him a big  Smiley!

Take care,
Shan
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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2005 at 4:26pm
 
Sorry about the long over due response..

For nearly two years, I was taking cholesterol reducing drug that contained 1,000 mg of Niacin. The niacin was included because it helps improve the level of HDL's and HDL/LDL ratio) in the blood stream. I am no longer taking this medication as I have switched to a new cholesterol medication that is doing a much better job with my over all cholseterol problem. Please note that I was NOT taking Niacin as part of a MM treatment, NOR was I taken off Niacin as a result of my preliminay MM diagnosis.

What I can tell you about Niacin (especially the prescription form, as you can buy a fast acting version at your local drug store) is that the side effects can hurt like heck. Many people, myself included, exerience a flushing feeling all over there body within minutes of taking Niacin. As a result, I had to take 2 325 mg Asrin a day and it did not help that much. I will say that the flushing is not as bad as that exerienced with the CT-A. However, the flushing happened to me on a daily basis....and boy was it unpleasent.

Just my two cents and insight,
Greg
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I was misdiagnosed with MM in March of 2005. In January 2006, I was told it is not MM, but rather a massive restriction in the MC1 segment of my left carotid artery.
 
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