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ricangyrl
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Nov 17th, 2005 at 3:19am
 
Hi MM Family,

My sister just recently got diagnosed with MM, so here I am taking in as much information as I can.  Right now, it looks like the docs are wanting her to wait before having surgery.  My mother and I are worried about her having to wait.  She hasn't suffered an actual "stroke" as of yet (she had seizure like symptoms) and of course we dont want her to have a stroke.  From reading some postings, it looks like most have had the surgery.  Do you need to be a "severe case" to have surgery or what would be considered a "surgery case"?  Any information would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for the great site!
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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2005 at 7:45am
 
Welcome aboard Ricangyrl!

We have quite a few members in Hawaii.
You can look at our members map and find them.
They will be able to give you information about the area and mearsures to take.

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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2005 at 8:27am
 
Hello Ricangyrl and welcome to our website.  We are glad that you found such an informative website and our boards.  I'm sorry that your sister has been diagnosed with MM, but you have come to the right place.

I am 34 years old and was diagnosed in September of 2004.  I had my surgeries with Dr. Steinberg in November of 2004.  My brother was also just diagnosed with the disease in September 2005 and had his surgery just last week with Dr. Steinberg.

Let me first say that it's extremely important that you have your sister seen by a moyamoya specialist.  Unfortunately, they are few and far between, but we do have some excellent MM specialists out there.  The two that come to mind are Dr. Steinberg at Stanford Medical Center in California and Dr. Scott in Boston, MA.  Dr. Scott usually only works with those that are ages 35 and under though I believe.  

The other thing I would like to mention is that you should not wait.  The neurosurgeon I saw in DC who was familiar with moyamoya told me to do the same thing.  He wanted to wait until I was not having active TIA's and suggested I come back in 6 weeks to evaluate the surgery option again.  If I had waited, I was told by Dr. Steinberg that I probably would have had a serious stroke.  So...in my opinion....please don't wait.  It's very important that your sister take action on this now!  I'm not a doctor, but just my opinion.  

Also, you don't have to be a "severe case" to have surgery.  I did not consider my brother a severe case and he had surgery on one side.  He does have it on both sides of his brain, but right now they are just watching the other side.  

I hope this information helps, and I wish your sister, you and your family the best of luck on this new journey you are about to take.  I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.   If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask as we are all here to help and offer support whenever we can.

Michelle
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Reply #3 - Nov 18th, 2005 at 12:04pm
 
Hi Ricangyrl, I'm sorry you had to find us, but glad you did Wink This is a great place full of wonderful people ;Grin They have certainly helped me more than I can say. Personally, my momma wasn't diagnosed until she was already an extreamly severe case, but if we would have been diagnosed correctly before she hemorraged, she probably never would have gotten to the "sever" status. Please do not wait! Get a second opinion as soon as possible from a specialist. In my opinion, waiting is dangerous! Undecided Please keep us posted on how everything goes and what you and your sister decide. Best of luck Smiley                                                 Nikki
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Reply #4 - Nov 18th, 2005 at 1:13pm
 
It is your Body, I mean you sister's.  Have they done a stress test to see if there is sufecent enought blood flow to the areas where she could have a stroke? I would send her stuff to Dr. Steinberg and see what he says. I was told I could wait for my surgery but I said NO!!! I don't want to have a worse stroke and wind up parilized or unable to talk!! Who do some of these docs think they are telling us to wait untill something Worse happens before they will do something about it.

For example: Lets use a car. Your breaks star to squeek, but not to loud. You bring it into a mecaninc and He says to wait untill they are sreaking so bad you can hear it over your radio, then he will repace them! NO WAY! Am I right? This is called preventitive Matinece.

I would get more opions untill you feel you have gather up the best amount of info to make the right desion. It is not a car you can repace if it breaks down. It is your sisters LIFE!!
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Reply #5 - Nov 18th, 2005 at 5:32pm
 
Hi, 
I am new to this site and here is my story.  Does this story seem to be a trend or what!!!??  Some of you have already responded to me and I thank you!

My son is 28 and had a stroke on July 23rd of this year.  He did not have any lasting symptoms.  That started a barrage of tests which led to a neuro in Ft. Walton, FL.   The surgeon, suspected MM, because he was stationed in Japan and saw it alot, but is not qualified, by his own admittance, to treat it.  He sent my son to UA Birmingham Medical Center where he saw a Neurosurgeon who did an angiogram and diagnosed MM.  My son just went back this week for a special MRI that measures blood flow.  His bloodflow is normal, and the veins his body has made to make up for the 100% blocked ones are very strong in the NS's opinion.  So he is saying wait until symptoms get worse, even though he has never done an MM surgery.  Needless to say we are seeking 2nd and 3rd opinion and fast!!  We have DVD's of angiogram, CTA, and recent MRI.  I read that Dr. Steinberg in LA will look at them at no charge and give a determination.  Dr. Lewis at UFL Gainesville, FL will look at written reports of the tests at no charge.  That is where we are at this point.  Any tips, info or suggestions are greatly appreciated!!
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Reply #6 - Nov 19th, 2005 at 7:27pm
 
Dear Moyamom Marguerite,
It seems most of us started our mm voyage in a similar boat:  MM Diagnosis, then  told to wait until we have another stroke (presumably because their idea is that mm surgery is "worse" than having a stroke!!)  You are doing the right thing~~~ getting  other opinions from the "best" (Dr. Steinberg at Stanford or Dr. Scott at Boston).  I had a major stroke that resulted in paraylsis on my right side, was told to wait to have another stroke by my neurosurgeon & told by another neurosurgeon that, with my x-rays,  I could have a stroke any day (told that wonderful news on Christmas Eve). I said NO!!, I didn't want to have another stroke that might put me in a nursing home.   I thank God for helping me find Dr. Steinberg (this was back in 1997, before this WONDERFUL  web site).   It only took a few days when they got my X-rays (back in the "olden" days), and called me back immediately & we set up a time for my surgeries.  I came from the midwest (WI) & had to wait until my h could get time off~~Easter break then June for the 2nd one.  It was perfect; they even found housing for us on such a short notice.  You won't find a better hospital than Stanford either, if that's where you decide to go.  From the anesthesiologist, to the doctors, the nursing staff,  & Theresa, the entire hospital is first class.    Good luck in your search;  we'll all be praying with you!  deb
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Reply #7 - Nov 20th, 2005 at 1:00pm
 
Thanks Deb.  The CD's are on the way to Stanford.  They will be there Monday AM.  The other written information will be faxed to Dr. Lewis on Monday, so we should know something soon.  Hopefully before Thanksgiving so we can start making plans. 
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Reply #8 - Nov 20th, 2005 at 9:37pm
 
Hi guys,

Just wanted to say thanks for all your replies!  My sister has been to the site and is taking in all the information.  Hopefully, we can be in contact with an MM specialist soon.

Thanks Again for all your help!
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Reply #9 - Dec 2nd, 2005 at 8:38pm
 
to anyone who can try to help us answer some questions we are having concerning mm,                               our mother was recently diagnosed with mm and we have a million questions and have not received very much information from anyone yet . this diagnosis is recent and our family is trying to find out more information , this has really upset our mother and our family as well . she went for her angeogram yesterday and we are awaiting the results, this is a  very difficult wait for us and any information would be very much appreciated. thank you                             the family of dallen
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Reply #10 - Dec 2nd, 2005 at 9:03pm
 
Family of dallen,

Sorry you had to find us, but welcome to the family!  There have been thousands and thousands of questions asked... and answered on this message board by hundreds of people who have walked in the same shoes your family is in right now.

First, know that a diagnoses of moyamoya is NOT a 'death sentence'.  There are several proven surgical treatments available to correct the lack of blood flow to the brain.

Second, most of the posts you will see here will recommend you seek a second opinion from a medical facility that specializes in the treatment of moyamoya for final diagnoses and possible treatment options.

Lastly, read... read... read...  There is a wealth of information on this site.  Making an informed decision for your mother's treatment is probably the best suggestion we can all give!

When you have any questions, please don't hesitate to let us know!  There are over 600 sufferers, family members, and friends who will be more than willing to offer any opinions and support possible.

Hang in there!

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Reply #11 - Dec 2nd, 2005 at 9:56pm
 
Rachel and Marguerite,

I know how overwhelming a diagnosis of moyamoya can be. My brother Kevin (Cubbie) has moyamoya and went undiagnosed and misdiagnosed for 4 years. He had a significant stroke and multiple TIA's. When we finally received a diagnosis of MM and all doctors sent Kevin home to live out whatever life he had left, I got busy and started researching the disease.

The doctors said Kevin had enough blood flow and for that reason, could wait to have surgery. Even Kevin's internist, who was unfamilar with MM said Kevin didn't have much blood flow reserve. Even he said something had to be done. By the time Kevin got to Stanford for surgery, his blood flow was negative 2 on one side and only plus 15 on the right. His speech was worsening and his balance was way off to the point he fell in the garage and walked into objects. It didn't take rocket science to know Kevin was brewing for another major stroke. To make a long story short, I found this wonderful site. That was after I had telephoned multiple institutions who didn't even know what MM is. After I discovered this site, I first read about the different surgical procedures, the different testing and the anesthesia. I located Dr. Steinberg at Stanford through this site and sent Kevin's film to him. I felt if anyone could or would help Kevin it would be a MM specialist. I received a return telephone call in a couple of days. Kevin had two direct bypasses (STA-MCA) at Stanford in May of this year. Had he not had surgery, based on his condition at the time, he would most likely not be with us today. I realize every MM situation is different and I am not a doctor but one thing I have learned is to read about the disease and listen and learn from others with MM.

Many MMers have the same or similar symptoms. Some MMers are more fortunate than others as they were diagnosed early and got treated in a timely manner. Others were less fortunate and some went misdiagnosed and/or undiagnosed and experienced dibilating symptoms like Kevin. Each case is different but they all have common threads.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them.  We are here to support you and your families through this journey. Like DJ mentioned, there are 600 people who have been on the MM journey that come to this site and chances are, they have experienced the same things you and your families are experiencing and will gladly assist you anyway they can.

Please know you and your families are in my thoughts and prayers.

Lore
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