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Maryann
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Early symptoms of MM?
Mar 15th, 2006 at 5:00pm
 
Hello everyone.
I am new to this site and find it very informative.  Everyone of you out there are a blessing for newly diagnosed patients and families with MM. 

On Jan. 3rd of this year, our 6 year old daughter had a major episode at school.  She couldn't talk, her right arm and leg went numb and she eventually threw up several times too.  The school never thought about calling 911, who suspects that a 6 year old would have a stroke!  Well, she was eventually admitted to Children's in Denver and had all sorts of tests.  Her symptoms completely resolved with in 24 hours and she didn't have a stroke, just a TIA.  Thank goodness!  They discovered a narrow artery  with some raggedness in her left MCA.  After many tests and even a recent one this last Monday, they are still not certain what it is.  They said it could be the start of MM or vasulopathy of some sort.

She has had short lived episodes where she could not talk, and had weakness in her arm or leg.  She often has TIAs, especially when she is stressed.  (her brother and her are like a cat and dog!  We are trying to make him understand that he needs to just walk away & tell me if she is annoying him))

I was wondering if anyone out there had symptoms like this before being diagnosed? (especially in a young child.)   I have had all her files including all her films sent to Dr. Steinberg.  I also have a tentative appointment to see him April 3rd.  I am just waiting for him to respond and give us his opinion on if he can help her and what he thinks it is.

I would appreciate some feedback.

Have a great day everyone!

MaryAnn

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Reply #1 - Mar 15th, 2006 at 6:23pm
 
Hi, MaryAnn:

I am sorry to hear your young daughter's story, but welcome on the site, while you are reading through different threads, you'll find a lot of infomation.

My daughter, Li, who is 18 now had the most initial symptoms as numbness at some part of her body, sometimes couldn't talk neither 2 years ago. Thing happened more often when she was hungry, thirsty, stressed out, or hot whether. The worst one was happened on a school bus in a hot afternoon, the bus's air conditioner was broken and the header couldn't be turn off. Her whole body went to numb, couldn't talk to call 911. It lasted about 4 hours on that one. However in her angiographer test, it does the two major arteries narrowed and moyamoya vessels.

She just had her surgeries done in January and this month. Dr. Stainberg should give you the diagnosis if it is moyamoya.

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Reply #2 - Mar 17th, 2006 at 9:33pm
 
Hi Tingxin,

I hope your daughter is doing well now, I can't imagine what you and your family went through during both her surgeries. 

Thank you for responding.  It's so nice to know that a stranger could care!  I guess I am no longer a stranger, but a "family" member of this site now.  I heard back from Teresa, after Dr. Steinberg reviewed our daughter's films.  She said he definitely thinks its MM.  We had scheduled an appt. for April 3rd but after her hearing about Taylor's episodes, and the frequency of them, she moved up our appt.  We now have to be there by this Tuesday!  I'll be taking Taylor on Sunday to CA to be with my family in San Jose first.  I am so thankful that I have family near by, I don't know how I would manage with out their love & support.

I'd like to thank you and everyone on this site for being wonderful!  What a blessing you are.

Take care and thank you once more.

MaryAnn
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Reply #3 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 2:21am
 
Dear MaryAnn,

Hi, and welcome to our family!  I'm sorry that circumstances brought you here, but this is a wonderful place for information and support.  There is an awesome group of people here, all who have traveled this road in one way or another.  Many are willing to share their knowledge and understanding, as well as offer advice based on personal experiences.

I am the mom of a 19 year old girl who was diagnosed and had her surgeries in June 2004 at age 17.  She (Tara) is now a freshman in college and lives a very typical life.  You'd never know she'd been sick, much less gone through the surgery experience.  We are joyfully looking forward to celebrating her two year surgery anniversary.

I am very happy to hear you've consulted with Dr. Steinberg.  He is a genius at what he does, and your daughter will be in wonderful hands.  I will be sending you a private message with more detail, but we would love to meet you and provide whatever support we can to you while you are here.  Oops, I forgot to mention that we live in San Jose, about 1/2 hour from Stanford.

Please don't hesitate to ask questions here!  There will be many things that will crop up in your mind, and this is a great place to ask!  Take care, have a safe trip out to California, and I'll hope to talk to you sometime soon!

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Reply #4 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 6:38am
 
Maryann,Welcome to the group.It's grea that you have an appointment already.Your is good hands I'm sure.My daughter ahd ehr surgery at Boston with Dr. Scott.She was 5 at the time and very unstable but now she's doing wonderful and has had no new strokes or TIA's.She wasn't aboe to communicte everything she may have been feeling at he time but she ahd several strokes.Her very first symptomes were just a general unsteadiness,she started walking like she was drunk.She 9 now and doing great.I wi'' keep your family in my prayers ahve a safe trip and let us know how you make out.As the others have said ask awya with any and all questions someone wil most likely know the answer.
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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2006 at 12:10pm
 
Maryann:

I am so glad you found us and that you are going to see Dr. Steinberg.

I am now 25 years old and have been living with moyamoya since I was 8. My story is EXACTLY like your daughters. Almost everyday at school, my face, arm and leg would go numb (although I never threw up). I would tell my teacher and she would just tell me to go get a drink of water. My parents didn't really understand or believe me until they saw it with their own eyes one morning. This illness is hard to diagnose in normally healthy children because these "episodes" can last a very short period of time and it never happens in front of the doctors. It took them a longer time to diagnose me. Your daughter is very lucky. I had 2 surgeries and have lived a normal, healthy life. I have a 1 year old, a husband and a good job.

I would love to answer any questions you may have or chat on the phone with you. If you need to talk, please email me at showse@crcins.com. I hardly ever check the yahoo account.

God Bless you and your little one. We all know and understand what you are going through. You are not alone and you have a GREAT doc on your side.

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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2006 at 4:46pm
 
Hi Maryanne.

I have a granddaughter, now 16 years old, was diagnoised at age 9, she had TIA's headaches and throwing up all prior to disgnosis, was first thought thst she had childhood migraine, until one doctor thought to investigate further.  Her TIA's lasted anything from a few minuites to a day.

Good luck and welcome to this site, I have found it a great help.

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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2006 at 1:18pm
 
Hi Maryann,

My son is 10yrs old, 9yrs when diagnosised with MM. Before he was diagnosised I just thought he was clumsy. I can remember him tripping over nothing and dropping things he was carring. One time he was standing in front of me and instantly fell on me. I was  amazed at the time and asked him if he was drunk? He said his leg went to sleep. Not to mention the headaches he had. I did make him a regular Drs appt. for the headaches, but thankfully we didn't make it. Nero Drs. said if he had been prescribed headache medicine, it would have been the worst thing they could have done. Also, I have a 6 yr old boy and him and Nathan seem to always argue and wrestle. When this happens Nathan's MM and Chorea (a movement disorder) are defintely visable. Drs. said stress plays a huge part in MM. How do you reduce stress with a 6 & 10 yr old.

I hope this helped, good luck, I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.
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Reply #8 - Apr 6th, 2006 at 2:42am
 
Hello everyone,

I am sorry that it took me a while to log in again.  Taylor and I are at my parents in San Jose and I don't always have access to a computer here.  We have also been very busy with the various tests at Stanford.  Talking about tests, I felt so horrible that Taylor was poked 5 times by 3 different people to get an IV in her arm for her SPECT test.  After 2 TIAs, I finally had to stop it.  It delayed her test by a day, but at least she got to recover from it and also drink pleanty of fluids to plump her veins up.  Thank goodness the hydration worked for the next day.  The first try (against her will) worked.

Well, here we are.  Her surgery is this Friday with Dr. Steinberg.  I am relieved it's finally here, but also very nervous.  She seems perfectly healthy now, I guess I'm afraid she won't be the same when she is finished. 

It turns out that Taylor will need surgery on one side only at this time.  She has some MM starting on her right side, but it's only with her external vessels.  We'll have to have an angio in 6 months to see if there are any changes.

I truly feel for the families that have to go through this with no family nearby, or worse yet, in a hotel room.  I first arrived here in CA such a wreck!  Having my family with us through this trying time, is such a relief. Taylor is occupied with playing with her cousins and having a great time.  I have to remind myself at times that we are here for her surgery, and not a vacation.  My thoughts are with the families that have to go through this alone.

I am comforted that she will be fine.  Dr. Steinberg, Teresa and Jill are all so wonderful.  It's so nice to have Jill on staff now, she's always there to lend comforting words and support. 

Taylor seemed at ease with the knowledge that she'll be having surgery on her head, but this evening she was a little nervous that she would not wake up from her surgery.  I had to comfort her and tell her that she not only had the best surgeon, but also that God was watching over her and will make everything better.  It broke my heart that she has to be feeling this right now.  I can't wait for all of this to be over with.

I will bring her to Stanford tomorrow to have Dr. Dodd look at Taylor's angiogram site.  It's been 13 days since she had it and it's still very tender and swollen.

Thank you everyone for your support and prayers.  Please especially keep her in your prayers this Friday.

Take care and I'll update you later.

MaryAnn
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Reply #9 - Apr 6th, 2006 at 11:58am
 
Maryann~

I want you to know that you and Taylor will be in my thoughts. I know its hard to deal with all this but you are at the best place! I went to Stanford all the way from Atlanta, Georgia and it was hard being so far from home but Dr. Steinberg and his staff are amazing and I would never choose another place to have been.

It was hard for me to believe that all this was happening at the time I was in California and having surgery but everyone on this site helped me through all the way. It has now been almost two years abd I have to touch my scars or look at pictures to remind me that it really happened.

We are all here for you and Taylor! Please keep us posted on her surgery! My thoughts and prayers are with you!!!

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Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 8:32pm
 
Hello everyone!

Taylor's surgery went very well.  Dr. Steinberg said that her blood flow went from 6.9 to 12.9!  It doubled!

Our surgery date was unusual, in that it was done on a Friday.  Jill told me that he normally does them on Tuesdays & Wednesdays.  (Thank you Jill for visiting me a couple of times, I really appreciated seeing you.) The weekend at least was very quiet. 

During her surgery, I met a Carmen & Mark from Michigan.  Mark is almost 2 and had his 2nd surgery on the Tuesday before Taylors.  Meeting her and her comforting words, and seeing how Mark was just about fully recovered on his 4th day after surgery was sooo comforting.  They came by the next day to see Taylor and  Carmen could hardly contain Mark.  Mark was full of energy and wanted to run!  She told me not to worry, that Taylor was in good hands.  She was right.

The evening of her surgery was a little scary for me.  One doctor told me that they will try to maintain her mean (the average of her blood pressure numbers) between 70 and 80.  Another person told me it was 60 to 90.  While she was a sleep, it would drop to 54 and 55.  I would gently touch her to wake her up so that it would rise again.  After 20 mins. of trying to reach a neuro person, she was told that it should be 60 to 80 and immediately gave Taylor Albumin (a blood product) to raise her mean.  That worked and from that point on it was mid 60 to mid 70s.  What a relief!  The next morning a neuro doctor, (an elderly doctor that works with Dr. S.) said that in kids it can drop in the 50s.  I just wish that someone told me that up front!  That would have saved a lot of stress. 

The the next 2 days Taylor was really swollen on her left side to where her left eye was swollen shut and could not be opened.  I was told not to worry and that was expected.  I am surprised she didn't develop a shiner.  She was taught by a young doctor to say "you should see the other guy" when someone asked her about her swollen eye.  After the 2nd time, she said exactly that!  It's amazing how quickly children recover.  By the 3rd day, she wanted to walk around and visit She wasn't embarassed to show her scar, it was almost as if she was proud to show it off.

We saw Dr. S only once, late Monday at 11:00 pm after he had a full day of surgeries.  It's amazing how he keeps going.  We will have Taylor's follow up this Friday w/Teresa since Dr. S will be unavailable.  On Monday we will finally return to Colorado.  Taylor is definitely ready to return to school and see her friends.

I hope that all will be well.  She had a brief TIA while in the hospital and was told that could happen while her graft is so new.  By the way, she had a direct by-pass surgery.  I guess that's STA-MCA surgery. 

Thank you everyone for your support and prayers.  I think we will be taking Taylor to the reunion at Disney.  She definitely deserves a fun  vacation w/her family after all that she's been through.  It truly was tougher on the family than herself.  She said it wasn't bad at all.  I guess it's because she was spoiled rotten w/all sorts of gifts from everyone.

I hope to meet everyone in Florida.

Take care.

MaryAnn
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