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tiomasai
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Moya Moya - rare disease?
Apr 9th, 2006 at 8:28pm
 
I just had to relate a story to all ... my co-worker tells me the other day that she went to her dry cleaners.  They were chit-chatting about the news that Katie Couric is going to CBS (my co-worker's husband works for CBS).  My co-worker said that she couldn't believe the amount of money they pay these journalists when, for the most part, all they do is read news notes that someone prepares for them (her words, not mine, so don't flame me if you have any issues with that!!).

Anyway, she adds that 'it's not like it's brain surgery or anything' and her dry cleaner replies with 'funny you should say that as my husband had brain surgery last year.  he has this rare disease and he could have had surgery in california or in new york and eventually had it in new york'.  

My co-worker said, 'if you tell me it's moya moya, I'm going to have a heart attack'.

And the dry cleaner responds, 'how do you know about moya moya?'

Shocked

It just makes me wonder...how rare could Moya Moya be?   Cheesy

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Reply #1 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 10:22pm
 
I grew up in a small town in South Ga and have heard that one of my classmates also has a child with MoyaMoya. How rare is that for 2 people in a very small town to have children with MoyaMoya. I now live in NC and when I told a friend she informed me of the case in my hometown of Camilla Ga. I am very interested in pursing research in this area and hope to work to start a MoyaMoya foundation . Please let me know if any work has already begun on a foundation and research in which we can all participate.
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Reply #2 - Apr 10th, 2006 at 7:00am
 
hey i was thinking about this just the other day...
as far as "i know" (which is based on not much really!!!) there are about a handful of people in Australia with MM (diagnosed anyway..) but i'm curious as to whether there are more that i just don't know about....

i'm going to ask Laidlaw next week and see what he says...

but still.... no general medical practitioner in this country had heard of it and it's not really in any databases or textbooks....

so i guess more than anything, finding medical practitioners who know what MM is - is rare!!!
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Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2006 at 9:40am
 
Trina,

I have believed all along that moyamoya is not a rare disease. I believe it goes undiagnosed or missed diagnosed. I live outside of a town of approximately 30,000 people. There are 3 known and confirmed moyamoya cases in that town. That equates to 1 in 10,000 for just that small town.

When Kevin had his angio here and none of the doctors or any other hospital personnel knew what the collateral vessels were, that leads me to believe MM is just not recognized by site or name. It is an unknown to the medical community. If MM were better known in the medical community, I believe the numbers would be much higher than 1 in 2 million.  More reason to get the word out and educate.

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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2006 at 3:39pm
 
Hi All,
Yes I agree the medical world needs more education about MoyaMoya. My daughter is 26 and the MRI done at age 7 shows MoyaMoya when reviewed now but was not diagnosed then. I am hoping to look for some grant money to help fund medical education and diagnosis. Anyone wanting to help lets get a project going!
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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2006 at 4:04pm
 
Trina,

I have always said that this thing is bigger than we can even imagine!  People are popping up all over the place it seems like.  My brother ran in to someone a couple months ago at a gas station that was working there.  They got to talking and it turns out this guy has MM.  How unbelievable is that!!!!  Just goes to show you, that you'll never know!!

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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2006 at 5:51pm
 
Hi,everyone you don't know me but my daughter Jeanette has MM. I was just with her in North Lawrence,N.Y. She just had her second surgery. With in about fifty miles of her,she has found three other people with MM. I don't think it's so rare.
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Reply #7 - Apr 10th, 2006 at 9:01pm
 
  I totaly agree with everyone I definatly htink it's not as rare as it is just not diagnosed.I know of 2 other people nearby us. a young girl that goes to the same eye Doc as Kathleen and the daughter of a substitute gym teacher at our school.Shirley by the way we live in NY.I'm not sure where North Lawrence is We're just outside of the capital Albany.
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Reply #8 - Apr 12th, 2006 at 6:29pm
 
All,

We also need to remember a few things....doctors today are finally starting to become aware of MM and that TIA's may be related to more than precursors of strokes...hence, they are starting to look for MM.

For example, three years ago, when I had my first TIA, I had a MRI...no stroke, hence it must be stress. I visited with 9 different neurologists in my area and all said the same thing....STRESS.  Fast forward two years, I had my second major TIA, this time my new neurologist (who trained at Columbia Pres with Dr. Marshall and Connolly) knew enough to request the MRA along with the MRI. Although no evidence of a stroke was found, they did find the restriction in the artery.

Second, medical technology has increased dramatically over the past decade. The speed and resolution of today's MRI's/CT's/SPECTs are far better than they were ten years ago. My first SPECT scan took nearly an hour (it was a single head unit). The Spect scan I had last summer was over in less than 15 minutes (three heads and better resolution).


Mary Grace...
North Lawrence is just outside of the north western corner of the Adirondacks....(pretty much due north of Utica (almost to Canada), about three hours North of North West from Albany.


Shirley,

I went to college in Potsdam and spent many of weekends visiting friends in Malone....hence the only reason that I know where North Lawrence is. Give my regards to your daughter as that protion of NY is one of my favorites (yes, even with the mass amounts of snow).

Have a good evening everyone,
Greg

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I was misdiagnosed with MM in March of 2005. In January 2006, I was told it is not MM, but rather a massive restriction in the MC1 segment of my left carotid artery.
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 13th, 2006 at 1:37am
 
Hi Emily

I think you would be suprised how many fellow MM'ers there are in Australia. I know of three people in Newcastle with it and another who lives not far away.
The local hospital does not have a vascular neurosurgeon, but their acute stroke dept. does my transcranial doplers - to my knowledge, they know of several people with MM.
My neurologist tested for it - he has treated a few MM patients over the last 10 years.

A shame they do not all join this forum !

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Reply #10 - Apr 13th, 2006 at 3:29pm
 
Hi Emily, my cousin who live in Australia have MM also but he choose not to surgery( don't ask me why), but here in Richmond VA, to my friends, relatives, neighbors, coworkers,MM is the 1st word they ever hear from me, and I'm the only MM patient with my neurology doctor so I think it's rare. Cheesy
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Reply #11 - Apr 13th, 2006 at 6:35pm
 
I had something happen today that sent chills up my back...An older man hit my van a couple months back in a parking lot, there was not a lot of damage but we exchanged information so I could get some estimates for my van..well the last couple of months have been rough for me, a lot of TIA's and headaches etc.  so I just got around to calling him today, I apologized for having taken so long to get back to him but that I was having some medical problems..we got to talking and I said that I have a "rare" brain disease and out of the blue he asked me if it was Moya Moya....I was stunned because no one(Doctors, friends, family) had ever heard of it before me..After I got over the shock I said 'yes' and asked how he knew about MM and he said 'because his daughter passed away because of it'  I was sooo sad.  I did ask him how old she was and he said 38 almost 39, I should have asked him how long ago but I was still floored! I did mention to him this web site because I feel he may be able to find some comfort here...I truly hope he looks us up.  So I am with you...I do not think this is as "rare" as once believed.
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Reply #12 - Apr 15th, 2006 at 7:01pm
 
moody wrote on Apr 13th, 2006 at 3:29pm:
Hi Emily, my cousin who live in Australia have MM also but he choose not to surgery( don't ask me why), but here in Richmond VA, to my friends, relatives, neighbors, coworkers,MM is the 1st word they ever hear from me, and I'm the only MM patient with my neurology doctor so I think it's rare. Cheesy


really? where does your cousin live?
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Reply #13 - Apr 16th, 2006 at 8:45pm
 
Hi, he live in Australia but I forget what city, I haven talk with him for years but my mother talk to him almost every week, the sad thing is he being sick for years and never tell us what the name of disease was until I got dianosis, and then he told my mom that what he had, I will go find out why he doesn't want surgery and find out what city he live in too.  Anyway good luck on your surgery, you will be home soon and you will feel much better Smiley

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Reply #14 - Apr 18th, 2006 at 9:19am
 
Hi,
My name is Wanda and my daughter Amanda was diagnosed with Moya Moya on 8-11-1990. She had 13 stroke in a 3 month peroid and a double bypass also in 1990 at Herman Hospital, Houston Texas.. She had to learn how to eat , drink and walk all over again. She still has a hard time with eating and she drinks using a towel and she lost her hearing and speech and she is vision impaired. We us (ASL) to talk to her. She is a angel sent from heaven for us. We thank God every day for her and bless any one who has Moya Moya. She is every smart, love to draw, paint and is pretty good at it. But I guess the thing that hurts me the most is she has no friends. So I do a lot with her but we both enjoy it very much . We have a lot of fun together. This year in June she will turn 25 yrs old. So I know we are lucky and so for she has been doing good and no signs of strokes. May God Bless you all.
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Reply #15 - May 2nd, 2006 at 9:48pm
 
i spoke with my surgeon when i was just in hospital recently and he said there are a few other mm patients around that i don't know about..
he said as far as he knows they probably don't know other people with mm, so i am writing a letter to give to him that he is going to post out to those people... basically will just be some small details about my case (and probably emma's) and seeing if they want to set up a (formal or informal) support network and/or just basically letting them know that we're around  if they need to talk.
i'll put the website address in the letter of course too!
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