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Hi Everyone .... I Need Help....
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:51am
 
Thank you DJ and all of the posters...your info has been helpful...I have a few questions and hope you can give me some input.

My brother who is 42 years old was diagnosed with mm  on April 2,2006. He has been  recovering from a hemmorage and he's still in the hospital. His doctors have little or no experienced with mm.  Does anyone know of any doctors in Hawaii that might have experience with this?

Are there any medications that he should be on to help prevent another episode from happening?  Any other medications or treatment to prevent another occurance?

Do most people have the bypass surgery or not? The feeling from the doctor seems to be that my brother is too old to have the surgery.  For those who do have the surgery, what is the usual timeframe to be able to undergo the surgery after having had a brain hemorrhage??

I know I posted a lot of questions but any help and feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Reply #1 - May 2nd, 2006 at 1:27pm
 
Hi, welcome to our family, sorry that you find us  Sad but you come to right place.  I dianosiged MM on Jan and moyamoya is the first word I hear in my life, this site is very helpful and supportive ( hat of for DJ Smiley).  There was people in this site who has MM and surgery done live in Hawaiee, you track back old topic you will find it, you can also contact w/ dr. in states to get there opinion.  42 is not to old for surgery, I'm 36 and just get my left side done on Apr 7.  Lots of peoples go to Dr. Steinberg in Standford, Califonia, my surgeon is Dr.Tamargo @ Johns Hopkins Hospital Baltimore, Maryland.  You can also search on surgeon w/ bypass experience, there is a list of wonderful Dr. from all over country who perform surgery as well.
I have 2 opinion from 2 surgeon and both told me surgery is the only treatment for MM, and it the only change for me to live longer, so take charge in your hand, you can also tell your brother Dr. to go to this web site to learn more about MM( that what I did with  my local ER doctor when they don't listen to me Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Sorry for talking to much, you take care, your brother is in my though and prayer, update to let us know.

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Reply #2 - May 2nd, 2006 at 7:26pm
 
Hi GP

Is any age too old for surgery ?

I had surgery on both sides in November 2005 -
I turned 44 while in hospital - what a sweet birthday that was !

Sorry I cannnot help with your other questions, but 42 is DEFINATELY not too old for surgery.

I wish you and your brother the best of luck (will also say a prayer for him).

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Reply #3 - May 3rd, 2006 at 2:21am
 
Hi GP, sorry you had to find us, but glad we could be here for you!

As for your brother's age, 42 is definitely not too old to have surgery for MM.  There are several people on this site who have had surgery at older ages than that.

Most of what has been studied and written on MM shows medicinal treatments are not effective and will not prevent further "episodes" which makes interim treatment for your brother presenting with a hemorrhage kind of tricky.

Normally, once someone is diagnosed with MM, they are put on a regiment of aspirin or some stronger version of a blood thinner to try and prevent strokes and TIA's until surgical treatment can be performed.  As your brother has already had a hemorrhage, a blood-thinner probably won't be an option (obviously, just my  Smiley)

I would strongly suggest you contact a MM specialist on the main land as soon as possible to see if they can give you any suggestions or recommendations on treatment options.  Links to  Dr's Steinberg and Scott's email addresses are listed on the "Surgeons with Bypass Experience" board along with many other surgeons who have had at least some experience with MM.

Finally... Shan, from Hawaii, has put together a support group for people in Hawaii called "Hawaii Moyamoya Ohana".  I'm sure it would be very helpful for you to contact their group for some local support.  You can read about the group and find her email address by clicking on her profile name at the following address: http://www.moyamoya.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=localmeet;action=display;num=1129910766

Hope this information helps and please let us know if you have any more questions!

Welcome to the family!!  Smiley

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Reply #4 - May 3rd, 2006 at 10:33am
 
Hi GP  Smiley  Welcome to our MM family!

You can never ask too many questions and no question is unimportant. We all had plenty ourselves, (still do) and we’ve learnt that knowledge about this disease and getting the answers is vital to help you make your decisions down the road. The only thing is, no two cases are exactly alike because of all the many different factors involved with each individual, and so some answers may vary for each person. That’s where a MM specialist is so very important!

What I found to be the most important thing in dealing with MMD, in my opinion… is to have a doctor with MM experience. We often hear nothing can be done or surgery is not an option, but many times it’s not at all true, they say that due to their lack of experience with this rare disease. A MM specialist deals with this disease on a daily basis and can help when others cannot. Dr. Steinberg, from Stanford saved my niece’s life when they said surgery was not an option. He is IMO, the best MM specialist there is. You can mail him copies of all reports, tests (angio, MRI/MRA) for a second opinion. He’ll get back to you with his expert opinion very quickly. All the info you’ll need to do this is on the links here on the website.

MM is a progressive disease and needs to be managed by doctors with experience. I urge you to seek a second opinion as DJ said, ASAP.

Your brother is in our thoughts and prayers. Please keep us posted and know we're here to help in any way we can.

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Reply #5 - May 3rd, 2006 at 5:09pm
 
Hi, GP.  Welcome to the group.   You've already gotten some great responses.   I just wanted to add that I, too, have seen others on the board who were around your brother's age or older when they had surgery.

I also thought I would share that when my daughter had two strokes, she was 15 months old, and her doctor thought she was too young and too involved to be a surgical candidate.  In fact, her doctors in Philadelphia thought she would die within a matter of weeks, and we took her home from the hospital on hospice.

We contacted Dr. Steinberg and got a very different opinion.   Daphne had surgery on both sides about 6 weeks after her strokes.  That was more than a year ago, and Daphne is still around, and is a very happy and healthy 2 year old (although not without her problems relating to damage that had already been caused by moyamoya prior to surgery)

I just thought I'd share this experience to reiterate how important it is to see a surgeon who has vast experience with Moyamoya disease. 

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Reply #6 - May 3rd, 2006 at 5:35pm
 
CheesyGP, I was 48 when I had my 1st surgery but my 1st Stroke (of many) I was 47 and it was a little over a year when they done my surgery (and that was when I was DXed w/mm) they first DXed me with MS. To make a long story short (I never had a bleed) but had a Stroke on Christmas 1998 then another one on Dec. 26th (a major Stroke in my Frontal Lobe) I almost died during the 13 hour surgery (that was supose to be 5 51/2 hrs) was in a coma and had the brain of a 7 yr. old...........I have always thought it was because they done the surgery within a couple days of a Stroke.....My 2nd surgery took 5 1/2 hours and I was Home in 4 days, it was a month with the first surgery.. So I think it is better to have the surgery BEFORE you Stroke or Bleed.....Now my Friend Dana can tell you about bleeding in the brain because that is what she had.............danaatama@aol.com  CheesyHope this Helps Elaine
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Reply #7 - May 3rd, 2006 at 10:56pm
 
Hi GP and welcome to the MM family,

My brother Kevin (Cubbie) had surgery at age 47 as a result of MM. He too had a significant stroke and was sent home to live out whatever life he had left. To make a long story short, I sent his films to Dr. Steinberg at Stanford and within a few days, I received a response. The rest is history. Today is Kevin's one year surgery anniversary. He has done very well and he is currently at Stanford for a one year follow up.  I can only ditto  Jenny's post and what DJ said (second opinion) and what Mar mentioned about seeking a second opinion from a MM Specialist like Dr. Steinberg at Stanford and seending your brother's films to him.  Dr. Steinberg will view your brother's films and render his opinion at no charge. It doesn't get any simpler or easier than that.

Please know we are all here to support you and to assist in any way we can. Please ask any questions and let us know how your brother is doing.

You and your brother will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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