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Mar 29th, 2009 at 10:43am
 
A DOCTOR AT THE KU MED CENTER IN KANSAS CITY TOLD ME THAT I HAVE MOYAMOYA I HAVE 1 ARTERY IN THE BRAIN THAT IS 90% BLOCKED AND HAVE SOME VESSELL FORMING BESIDE THE ARTERY THAT IS BLOCKED (PUFF OF SMOKE) I HAVE HAD THE DOBBLER TEST THE MRI/MRA AND ANGIOGRAM WITH NO OTHER BLOCKED VESSELS I AM ON AGGRENOX TWICE A DAY BUT LAST WEEK AT MY APPT WITH HIM HE DOSENT WANT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS I HAD A STROKE BACK IN DECEMBER AND I AM 34 YOA THE ONLY THING THAT OCCURED WAS DIFF SPEACH FOR 2 DAYS ALL OF THE OTHER DOCTORS AT KU ADVISED I NEEDED A STINT PUT IN THE ARTERY THAT IS BLOCKED BUT THIS OTHER DOCTOR DOESNT WANT TO DO ANYTHING WE ARE SO FRUSTRATED AND THE NEUROSURGEN TOLD US HE DOESNT FEEL I HAVE MOYA MOYA SO ONE DOCTOR SAYS I DONT AND ONE SAYS I DO I WOULD LIKE SOME HELP AND WHO I SHOULD CONTACT REF ANOTHER OPINION APPRECIATE ANY HELP PROVIDED
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Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2009 at 11:06am
 
Definitely get another opinion from a MM specialist, like Dr. Steinberg at Stanford Medical Center or Dr. Scott in Boston.
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Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2009 at 12:10pm
 
Getting an opinion from either of the two surgeons listed above is a GREAT idea.

You can reach Teresa Bell-Stephens, RN,CNRN who is Dr. Steinberg's incredible nurse at:
(650) 723-5575
teresab@stanford.edu
tbell-stephens@stanfordmed.org

Hope it all work out well for you.

Linda (LA) a mm surgery survivor since 2000!
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Reply #3 - Mar 29th, 2009 at 12:16pm
 
Definately another opinion! My daughter is from Columbia MO and when she had her angiogram at the University they said they werent for sure about her diagnosis so we immediately sent films to Dr Steinberg and had a diagnosis quickly. He is the specialist and we trusted fully in him. My daughter had bilateral surgery last November at Stanford CA. Good Luck!
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Reply #4 - Mar 29th, 2009 at 4:51pm
 
I personally have experiences with KU and the neurosurgeons and neurologist with regards to Moyamoya. I also suggest a second opinion by a moyamoya specialist.

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Reply #5 - Mar 29th, 2009 at 7:06pm
 
Hi Darci,
I think that most of us who have been treated for Moyamoya have gone through experiences similar to yours. I too had a stroke and found some neurologists who said Moyamoya and others who would not. Most just have no or very little experience with the disease. That's why it's so important that you get the opinion of someone such as Dr. Steinberg of Dr. Scott. Can't stress how important it is that you take action quickly, especially as you've already experienced a stroke. It's a progressive disease, and while that one neurologist may want to wait and see what happens, what happens could be another stroke - that you don't want. Glad you found this support site, but sorry you are having to deal with this. Best of luck and please ask any questions. There's a lot of new information to be absorbed all at once.
Kim
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Reply #6 - Mar 30th, 2009 at 9:38am
 
Welcome to the moyamoya family.I totally agree 100% with everyone else.Another opinion is definatly the best idea.Please don't wait.....my daughter was diagnosed in Jan 2002 and had suffered several strokes, one being a very dissabling stroke by mid April of that year.There's no way to know how quickly it will progress or how devestating the next stroke will be.the only sure thing about this disease is it WILL progress.Please keep us posted.The specialists that have been named are very caring Dr.'s and will for sure give you a definate answer and will give you the best advice on your next step.
Mary Grace
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Reply #7 - Mar 30th, 2009 at 12:13pm
 
I second, third, fourth and fifth EVERYTHING that everyone has said.  This is NOT a "wait and see" disease.  It is dangerously progressive.  I would sugges tyou contact Stanford as soon as possible.  They will review your films and give you an experienced opinion.

Stanford, Dr. Steinberg , and all of his staff are GREAT!!!

Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers,
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Reply #8 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 1:07pm
 
Just wanted to thank all that had responded to my question of poss diaganois of moyamoya i had the films sent to dr steinberg at stanford just waiting for a response hopefully wont take to long thanks again for all of the support and information you provide on this message board
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Reply #9 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 1:21pm
 
Thanks for the update I was wondering how you were doing.I'm so glad you sent your films to Dr. Steinburgh.This site "rocks" I love seeing the people who come here looking for advice and information and the outpouring of help from members.I'm happy you found us!
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Reply #10 - Apr 3rd, 2009 at 5:54pm
 
Darci,

I took the advice from this board just a month ago.  On St. Pat's Day we heard back from Teresa at Stanford, and as I sit here and type this out, I am in the Guest Services area of Stanford waiting for my husband to recover from his angio.  His surgery is scheduled for Wednesday.  My husband's doctor in Chicago wanted to wait and see also (he had a stroke and surgery on one side in December), but his other side was 80% blocked at that time.  I didn't want to wait.  I had to convince (through the replies I got on this board) him to get the second opinion.  I am really glad I did.

If you don't hear back in two weeks, I'd call.  The techs were telling my husband that Dr. Steinberg is the busiest guy in the hospital.  I had to call, and Teresa called back the next day with the news.

I hope all goes well for you!

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Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2009 at 8:35am
 
ok just a update Teresa called on thursday and advised I do have moyamoya and surgery is sch for May 27 but have to be there for testing on the 19-22 and then they tell me if no problems should be able to leave on June 3rd or 4th so now im scared and worried about anything and everything!!!!! does everybody have to stay so long before and after surgery any advice on whats going to happen before and after surgery now that i know i have moyamoya i think im more scared then i was before!! thanks for listening to me rant I would appreciate any help with trying to deal with this diesase
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Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2009 at 9:58pm
 
Hi Darci,

Your feelings are real and most MMers have experienced the same. It's only natural to be frightened before any major surgery and especially of the unknown.

The more you know about the disease and treatment options and the more you hear from other MMers who have traveled the same path, it will help you to put things in perspective.  It's easier to take the journey when you know what to expect.

My brother had two STA-MCA's at Stanford in May of 2005. We were at Stanford for three weeks.  Keep in mind, he had two surgeries a week apart. The testing prior to the surgery takes several days. So the time frame you mentioned for testing, surgery and recovery seems the norm.  Also, if you are flying to Stanford, you will want to know all is well after your surgery before flying home.

My brother was very nervous and anxious before his surgeries. In an effort to calm him, I reminded him he had already had two strokes and a dissected right upper internal carotid artery and the surgery would not only put him on a level playing field, in terms of having any future strokes, but that the surgery is to correct the problem of the narrowing and closing of the carotid arteries by bypassing them.

It helps to try to put it all in perspective by learning about the disease and realizing the surgery is the treatment to correct the problem of little or no blood flow, depending on how blocked the carotid artery is. I kept telling my brother that blood flow does wonders for the brain. The brain is being starved of the oxygen it needs due to the blockage.  Again, the surgery corrects the problem by getting immediate blood flow to the brain.

Not to minimize your emotions, like I mentioned earlier, those emotions are real. Remember you have the moyamoya family supporting you. Others will most likely share their journey too. Other Stanford patients will most likely let you know if the timeframe you mention is about the norm for them.

Please ask any questions and come to the board, even if you just need to talk.  This is a support group and a great MM family who will help you through this anyway they can.

You hang in there and keep us posted.

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Reply #13 - Apr 13th, 2009 at 8:20pm
 
Hi Darci,
Everybody is scared before surgery - I know that I was. But, you do what you have to do to save your life. I know that I found the very best surgeon and staff at Stanford and that gave me tremendous comfort. They know what they're doing there and they do it with great skill and compassion.

The amount of time you've been told for your stay sounds pretty typical. About a week and a half for testing then a visit with Dr. Steinberg to discuss the tests and surgery, then the surgery and about three days in the hospital and if you're having the second side done as well that will be scheduled for a week following the first surgery, another three days in the hospital then a few days of recovery outside the hospital before seeing Dr. Steinberg and having the staples removed. That said, keep in mind that this experience is different for every person. So if your schedule is somewhat different, don't be alarmed.

The recovery process is also different for everyone. Just be patient with yourself. Don't allow yourself to become too tired - take lots of short naps, eat well and drink lots of water. Hydration is critical for those of us with Moyamoya.

You'll be in Stanford during the time when many of us will be returning for the annual Moyamoya picnic. If you'd like any of us to drop by and visit with you and your family, just say the word. Meanwhile, try to relax and get lots of rest.
Kim
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Reply #14 - Apr 14th, 2009 at 3:07am
 
Hi Darci

You are definately on the right track. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Reply #15 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 4:56am
 
HAS ANYBODY EVER STAYED AT THE APTS ACROSS FROM THE HOSPITAL SOUNDS REAL CONVIENT

UPDATE ON MY UPCOMING SURGERY WILL BE HEADING TO STANFORD ON MAY 5TH AND SURGERY WILL BE ON THE 13TH HOPEFULLY HEADING HOME AROUND THE 22ND GETTING REALLY NERVOUS BUT TRYING TO WORK THOUGH IT ALSO HAS ANYBODY  HAD BOTH THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT DONE AT THE SAME TIME SOUNDS LIKE POSS THATS WAS HE IS GOING TO DO ON ME ON THE LEFT SIDE AND THEN JUST WATCH THE RIGHT SIDE FOR KNOW
ANYWAY THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WILL TURN OUT FINE
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Reply #16 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 10:29pm
 
My daughter had her bypasses last nov. and I stayed at the HOME apts for almost 7 weeks and they are just great there. It is quiet and very convenient. I loved it there. My daughter had several strokes with the surgeries and she was in the hosp. for 6 weeks. The HOME apts take donations also and I have already included them in my yearly donations. It is a wonderful place with wonderful people.
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