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Jun 23rd, 2009 at 9:34pm
 
Hi everyone...
I was recently diagnosed with MoyaMoya, actually a couple months ago... I am 28 year old mother of a 2 year old boy.
Long story short I have had typical symptoms of MM since a child.  Im scheduled for surgery July 1st!  But I feel worse and worse everyday!!  Is this normal??  I feel  extremely tired and winded.  Lightheaded... like it takes everything out of me just to do normal things like take a shower.  Has anyone else felt like this before surgery??  Im just wondering bc the doctors here havent told me anything about MM!! so i dont know what to expect.... Please let me know...  Im wondering if I should go to the hospital sooner!  THanks!!
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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2009 at 11:26pm
 
Welcome Masonsmom, You came to the right place. You will get a ton of great advise from this site. I,m so sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I can't be of much help to you because I do not have MM. My 2 year old daughter does. She gets tired very easy. Normal tasks take a lot out of her. The only advise I have is to drink a lot of water and if you do feel light headed take a rest. I do think you may want to see a specialist on Moyamoya as soon as possible. I would not wait it out. You deserve the best treatment possible. I could not even imagine what you are going though being a mom and all. Hang in there. Dani
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Reply #2 - Jun 23rd, 2009 at 11:27pm
 
Hi, welcome to our MM family

Others can tell you their experience with this disease, but every case is different, so what is normal for one may not be for another, but with every case of MM, you’re at risk for a stroke, so if you are experiencing any stroke like symptoms, I would seek immediate medical attention.

Simply put…MMD is the narrowing of the blood vessels to your brain, so your brain does not get the proper blood, oxygen and nutrients it so desperately needs. It affects everyone differently, depending on where the blockage is with each individual, and to what degree of blockage. I don’t know your specifics, or if you have other problems that could cause your symptoms, but MM is a progressive disease, it does get worse over time, so don’t hesitate seeking medical attention if you feel it’s necessary. Nobody knows your body better than you do, so stay in tune and heed any warnings.

My prayers will be with you now and through your surgery.

Keep us posted

Mar
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Reply #3 - Jun 23rd, 2009 at 11:41pm
 
Masonsmom,
Sorry you had to come, but so glad you are here, There is no doubt in my mind that this site and the people that haunt the proverbial walls, in part saved my son from a serious stroke or worse, Robert showed more and more Fatigue as his situation worsened. Like Mar and Danille have posted seek out specialized and specific medical advice in regards to your specific Signs and Symptoms.

May I ask where are you from and where and by whom are the surgery(ies) to be performed by

Best wishes

Mike

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Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 12:58am
 
Masonsmom,

Welcome to the MM family.  I am so sorry to hear of your diagnosis but welcome you with open arms.  I was diagnosed with MM back in March and had surgery in April.  I have also had symptoms since childhood, had a stroke at age 7.  I had horrible fatique before surgery and still get tired more easily than others.  It is definitly better since surgery, but still not like most.  July 1st is only a week away, if you start to have symptoms of a stroke get to your doctor as soon as possible.  You do not want to wait.  The fatique is unfortunatley normal for most.  Since your brain is not getting enough oxygen and nutrients you feel tired all the time.  This often continues after surgery as well.  Most have increased fatique for up to a month after surgery but then it will hopefully get better.  Everyone is different though. 

I hope this helps.  You will be in our prayers.  Please keep us posted on your progress.   Where are you having surgery?

Hang in there!!!

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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 2:20am
 
Hello Masonsmom

Yup, fatigue can be linked to the lack of oxygen to the brain as well as stress as the surgery date draws near.

Stimulants, like coffee, are vascular constrictors. So be careful if you are feeling tired that you don't worsen the situation by having a little 'pick-me-up'.

Welcome to moyamoya.com. July 1st is very soon; good luck with your surgery and keep us updated.

Mark (Luca's Dad)
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 10:58am
 
thanks for all of your responses..
Im going to be having the surgery at Loyola university in Chicago done by Dr. Thomas Orgitiano. He is suposed to be a great surgeon. But its like I have to pull the information out of him and that scares me.
No one has even told me the name of the surgery, but i looked it up and from what they explained to me its the kind where they lay the tissue or muscle over the brain to grow new blood vessels. Im having it on my right side. However im concerned bc my carotid artery is all the way narrow... so shouldnt they be doing something down there too?
I asked the doctors here if there is anything "special" i should be doing to stay healthy or "not" be doing and they didnt tell me anything. THey basically said "nope".  So  is this true?? One resident doctor did say to try and exercise.. well how the heck can i do that when i can barely chase my 2 year old around!?  lol
I really want to mail my films to Standford but with my surgery right around the corner im afraid Im running out of time!! Undecided I love to hear all of your inspirational stories or surviving and feeling better!  I'am so scared right now and really dont know what to expect. Sometimes I think the fact that I feel like its hard to breath is because of anxiety!
Thanks!!
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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 11:24am
 
masonsmom,

I understand your anxiety and frustration.  There are things that you can do to stay as healthy as possible.  The first and most important is drink, drink, drink, lots and lots of water.  3 liters a day if possible.  Stay away from caffeine as much as you can.  Caffeine constrictis the blood vessels.  Secondly, get lots of rest.  You do not want to get too tired. 
I live in Illinois and was diagnosed at UIC in Chicago but chose to go to Stanford for treatment.  It was a hard decision but after several days of anxiety and an increase in symptoms I sat down with my family and we changed our game plan.  You need to feel comfortable with your surgeon and everyone else that will have a hand in your care.  Don't just think about the surgeon but also think about the anesthesiologist and nurses that will be caring for you.  How much experience do they have with moyamoya.  This is a potientially life thretening disease, you and your family need to feel compfortable with your entire health care team.  I know that when I fainlly made the decision to go to California I felt that a weight had been lifted from my shoulders.  I could take a deep breath and think, OK I can do this.  Everything is going to be just fine, and it was.  I work in health care and what I experienced at Stanford Hospital and Clinics was nothing short of miraculous.  I have never seen a better health care facility in all my life and I work at a hospital. 
There are other great hospitals out there and I have heard wonderful things about Loyola, we send patients from down state there all the time.  If you are feeling nervous then maybe you should at leas consult Dr. Steinberg.  You can send you discs over night and he will look at them as soon as he can. 
He was able to work me in within a week, my surgery date was actuall only delayed by 2 days.  I had 5 days to schedule my flight and make hotel arragments etc...  He will do anything that he can to help you. 
I know that you will make the best decision for you, the important thing is that you try to decrease the amount of stress in your life.  I know that it sounds rediculas, but feeling comfortable with the health care that you are receiving can help a lot. 
There is also a good surgeon in Cinicinati that treats MM.  He just does not have as much experience as Dr. Stgeinberg but is getting more and more each month.  He presented at the moyamoya symposium earlier this month at Stanford. 
Hang in there, you have an entire support system behind you.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.   I was in your shoes just a couple of months ago. 

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Reply #8 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 11:35am
 
Hello again, Just wanted to share that it seems I too have had to ask the right questions to get info about MM. It wasn't until I joined this site that I started to understand what precautions we should take with my daughter. She had surgery in Detroit and all the follow up has been in Michigan. I have wondered if we should try to contact Stanford just to get good info. My personal opinion is that you should not exercise. Especially this close to your surgery. I think chasing a 2 year old around is enough. I also wanted to say you are a real inspiration to my family. I was so surprised to hear you have had MM your whole life and never had any major problems. It makes me hopeful that my daughter may live a long time. We will keep you in our prayers and would like to hear how it all turns out. Danielle
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Reply #9 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 12:56pm
 
masonsmom,
Welecome to the MM family. I had the "lay the tissue or muscle over the brain to grow new blood vessels" and the STA-MCA direct bypass. If this neurologest is not giving you answers to your surgry then i strongly sugesst calling Dr.Stienberg. I don't not want to say don't do the surgery but you may need to have another surgery after. My Nuerologest explained everything extreemly well so both my mom, my husband and I were very happy that we knew all the risks and benifits of the surgery. My Neurologest was a MM expert, not as good as Dr.Stienberg. For any surgery you should know what they are doing, what are the risks during surgery, waht are the risks of not doing the surgery, How long they think it will take you to recover, what make this surgery better then that surgery, and I going to have to have my whole head shaved, ect. Since I was told all of those questions and more I was couldn't wait to have the surgery done. This sight helped me in reasuring me my neurlogest knew his stuff and if i needed to look up so I could tell the rest of my family i had visual aids. Please keep us posted with any progress.
I wish you all the best,
Becky ( I was 22 when I was diagnosed and had the surgery they did both at the same time.)
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Reply #10 - Jun 24th, 2009 at 2:59pm
 
Masonsmom,
I will try to explain this to you, normaly where the cartoid Artey is occulded is in the base of the brain in a rear called the circle of willis, due to the sensitivity of that area treatment to the dierct area is to "invasive" (potentialy more harm then good). so consquently they work in a less problematic area,  now that soes not mean they are ignoring the occudled part the arerty is laid on the cartoid arerty and grows together the blood then flows into the Carotid and then it does not matter that its occuled to that point because it has blood flowing to it any how it has been rerouted to the caratoid with out the risks of messing around in the base of the brain.

Now Robert had surgeries on both sides about 2.5 years ago prior to surgery he was having what I call Full Blown TIA's 2-3 times a week since surgery he has had 3 very minor TIA's he is doing very well and I have never second guessed our decission to have them done,

As far as where to go, it has to be a decission you are confortable with, we consulted with roughly 10 surgeons and decided on Dr. Steinberg, not because we were most comfortable with him(actually we had never talked directly to him.) He however was the Only Dr. that had contacted our pediatric nerouloigist, also he was the only one that did not see the need to redo all the tests only a few to rule out some potential problems. The decission on what surgery he would do was left to the end until he saw wether roberts arteries were large enough to graph or he would have to lay them together.

Please feel free to ask any and all questions, we will answer them as best as possible

In our thoughts and prayers
Mike
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 3:03am
 
Send your images to Dr Steinberg overnight. He will respond before your surgery date and then you can make an informed decision.

Personally, I wouldn't accept a Dr I don't feel comfortable with or don't know of his moyamoya credentials.

There is no right or wrong way of doing this, it's all up to the individuals situation. Whatever you do is the correct thing for you.

Good luck and keep us updated
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:08am
 
Thanks again for all of your responses!  Im sending my films off to be looked at for a second opionon today!  Im just really stressed out bc I dont know what to do.  I really dont know how it would even be possible to go to California.  I mean,  basically I will have to go by myself. So my husband can stay back with our son. Also I think everyone in my family thinks Im totally crazy for changing my mind at the last minute! Shocked

Just a side question...   Has anyone ever had a feeling in thier ear like its full of water... or like how you feel when your on an airplane?  Just recently the side of my head (ear area) feels like that.  Its driving me nuts!
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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:28am
 
masonsmom,

Take a deep breath and know that everything is going to be OK.  There are so many wonderful people on this web page that are here to help you get through this.  I know that it is very overwhelming.

First of all, yes I have had the fullness in the ear feeling.  Not sure if it was related to the moyamoya or not, but I have had it in the past.

Secondly, if you decide to go to California for treatment, going alone is not really a good option.  You will need someone with you when you leave the hospital.  Usually they want you to stay for 10 days to 2 weeks minimum, and that is only if you are having one surgery.  If you have to have surgery on both sides you will need to stay longer. 
You will only be in the hospital about 5 days after each surgery, so you will need someone to stay with you at the hotel between. 

Thirdly, I would recommend that you talk to your family about how you are feeling.  If you are uneasy or unsure about the surgeon or hospital then you need to discuss other options.  This is not a surgery to be taken lightly, you are going to need the help and support of your family. 

Lastly, There are other physicians that are experienced with moyamoya.  There is one in Cincinati and one in St. Louis.  You can always check into either of them.  If staying closer to home will make things easier for you and your family you may want to check out some of the others.  Try to keep the stress level as low as possible, stress can increase your symptoms.  That is why it is so important that your family give you as much support as you needed, and respect your decisions. 

Take care and we are always here when you need us. 
Did I read on one of your posts that you are from Illinois?  If so then where in Illinois.

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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 6:35pm
 
Amy and i are from Dallas City IL. Would be interested to find out where everyone else is in IL
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Reply #15 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 12:21am
 
Christie,

I am from Danville Illinois along the Illinois Indiana boarder, just 40 minutes from Champaign Urbana in the central part of the state. 
Where is dallas City?

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Reply #16 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 12:32am
 
Tracie,
   I was born in Mattoon IL. Do you know where that is? I am now about an hr north of Quincy, right on the IA border. My daughter and her children are living with me since her surgeries. She ended up having several strokes during. She was from MO. We were hoping to all meet in Omaha NE but i guess that fell through. Will you be going when they come up with another date?
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Reply #17 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 9:01am
 
Christie,

Yes, I am very familar with Mattoon, it is only an hour or so frim my home.  Several of my daughters friends go to Eastern and one of our "adopted daughters" is in school there.
Yes, I was planning on going to the reunion when theya are able to set up a date. 
If you would like to get together sometime just let me know.  There are several MM people in Illinois, we could all get together later this summer or in the fall.  Maybe somewhere central like Springfield. 
Take Care.

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Reply #18 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:40am
 
Tracie,

   sounds great to me!
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Reply #19 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 6:40am
 
Hi Masonsmom,

Same here I'm new with MMD family, I was diagnosed last year August 2008 with MMD. I dont have my surgery until now, but right now I'm feel okay although theres sometime headache but my doctors told me its normal in our case with MMD.   I feel sorry for you too, but let my prayers hand to you and all of us who have it.  Mar is right just be strong and you can make it.

God Bless on your surgery and give us feedback of your operation.

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