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3 year old with MoyaMoya originally misdiagnosed
Mar 8th, 2011 at 12:27am
 
My 3 yr old son last year had a stroke, there was an hemorrhage at or near his basal ganglia.  He was misdiagnosed with an AVM at LA Children's.  Later we found out he had MoyaMoya. We found this site and contacted Dr. Steinberg.  Dr. S and his staff are competent and wonderful.

A few days ago he received and indirect artery bypass.  He is recovering well and is scheduled for a second surgery (bilateral disease).   Perhaps an understatement, admittedly, this year has been difficult. It is remarkable how quickly your life and perspective can change. 

Does your child personality and behavior change.  After his stroke it almost seems he has the terrible twos, plus threes, time ten.  Days after his surgery he has a meltdown.  I am afraid he will get another stroke.

Will my child be able to live a long normal life?  Who on this board has or knows a person living a normal life?

I hate this disease.  I truly do. 

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Re: 3 year old with MoyaMoya originally misdiagnosed
Reply #1 - Mar 8th, 2011 at 8:32am
 
2x2709,
Welcome to the family. I am sorry you have to be here but this is the best support group you will ever meet. I was 22 when I was diagnosed after a srtoke.

It is the stroke that will slightly modify his personality but since he is so young he should be able to adapt and change back to "normal" more easily since the personality is still developing.

As far as the terrible threes... that is from not being able to express oneself easily. I at 22 right after my stroke and recovering from my surgery was the same way. I a quick to anger when I am exhausted to this day but since I am aware of this I try to get to bed or take a nap if needed.

As far as a "normal" life; there are a few "should not do's" that are recommended. 1) No sky diving 2) No SCUBA diving 3) depending on the surgery no contact sports (American football, Hockey, ect) 4) Be extremely cautious about riding roller coasters. 5) depending on the person be cautious about playing instruments that you blow into (trumpet, flute, ect)

My "normal" Life: I work full time (40+ hours a week) and I am going to collage part time to get my BS in Electrical Engineering. I started this path before I knew about my MM. I took a year off of school but still worked full time. I had my stroke a few days after my honeymoon. For the first few months to a year I wanted to go out an party with my friends like I remembered doing, but I knew I could not stay out that late so My husband came up with a code word that when I say it he knows it is time to leave soon. I can get pregnant an in my case I will have to have a c-section but others have been able to do a natural birth.

Just remember everyone's initial conditions are slightly different. So what has worked for me may not be what works for another. Stay Strong and support him as much as you can. Watch for  signs of fatugue.

Becky
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What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger. And sometimes leaves a cool looking scar.     STA-MCA bypass and EMS Surgeries done at same time at the Mayo clinic
 
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Re: 3 year old with MoyaMoya originally misdiagnosed
Reply #2 - Mar 8th, 2011 at 9:38am
 
Welcome to the group. So sorry you need us but it's a wonderful place as Becky said to get support and information.
  My daughter was almost five at the time of ehr diagnosis. It was devestating. We didn't have this group so all the unknowns made it very scary. The most devestating part of this disease for us were the strokes. Kathleen had several strokes, one very severe stroke. Her surgeries were at Boston with Dr. Scott. It's been 9 yrs (in April) since and she has had no new strokes. Time does heal and help to become more "normal". It's not on our mind everyday now. Her dissabilities from the strokes are what make her life more complicated...lots of Therapies, dr.'s visits, and daily living struggles. I don't think her personality has changed which is what I too was afraid of. She's  happy,determined, strong, and an inspiration to everyone she meets. Does she have her melt-downs? absolutly, BUT we work through it and yes it can be related to fustration with her communication difficulties. If you have any specific questions please ask away. There's usually someone who can offer up an answer. I'm glad to hear that your son has had successful operations.  Keep us posted on his recovery.
Mary Grace
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Re: 3 year old with MoyaMoya originally misdiagnosed
Reply #3 - Mar 9th, 2011 at 10:20am
 
2x2709
I'm sorry to hear of the curve ball life has thrown at you, but just know that you are not alone.

Luca is now 3. She stroked twice before she was 1 and had bypass surgery soon after.

She is left with residual effects from the strokes; she is struggling to walk, but getting there, and her eyesight isn't 100%, but also appears to be improving.

I'm not sure what your definition of normal is, but we lead a normal life. We try not to let this disease get the better of us.

Fear is very normal. But you will learn to deal with it and slowly it will become manageable.

This bypass surgery is a wonderful thing and Dr Steinberg is apparently very good at it. Your sons been through way too much for a three year old and right now needs a lot of love and support; tantrums and all. Have faith in him and he will surprise you. He's the same Little Guy as before.

Stick around and you will get a lot of support right here.

Stay strong
Mark (Luca's Dad)

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1st stroke in September 2008, age 10 months
Bi-lateral mm diagnosis
2nd stroke in November 2008, age 1 year old
Left side surgery in December 2008
13 years on now
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Re: 3 year old with MoyaMoya originally misdiagnosed
Reply #4 - May 3rd, 2011 at 11:13am
 
My son is now 19 -- he was 7 when he was diagnosed and had his three strokes. 

He graduated last year from high school with a 3.0 GPA.  He is a freshman in college who stays up late and sleeps till noon (when he doesn't have a class).  He drives.  He texts and plays video games.  His biggest achievement was he played high school football!!  (It was a big deal, trust me!).

He has a "normal" life. 

Now, I want to temper that . . . the prognosis for a "normal" life actually depends on how well the patient recovers from the actual strokes.  Children have youth on their side.  They are more "elastic" brains and can overcome incredible odds. 

Trust me . . . we know how you feel.  I also want you to check out this site:  www.pediatricstrokenetwork.com

Once there, you can also join a listserv where ALL the parents involved have children who have had strokes (although for various reasons).  We talk, we vent, but most importantly we SUPPORT. 

Kim -- mom to Matthew, 3 strokes at 7 due to moyamoya and single left kidney due to renal artery stenosis (caused by the moyamoya)
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Re: 3 year old with MoyaMoya originally misdiagnosed
Reply #5 - May 3rd, 2011 at 7:11pm
 
I have an 11 yr old son who has down syndrome, autism and celiac disease. He suffered a stoke on his right side April 9th, spent a week at Chidlren's Hospital here in Phila. This is where he was diagnosed with Moyamoya and we found out he had 3 to 4 silent strokes prior to this one. This stroke effected his speech, and the whole right side of his body. My son is pretty much nonverbal anyway, he has a vocabulary of approx. 70 to 80 words. He has bounced back extremely well, thank God. He does receive speech and occupational therapy at school. Right now, he is back to his old self pretty much. The only thing I still notice is that he tires more easily. He is also on 1 aspirin a day and I have noticed he bruises very easily now.

For my son, his lack of communication has always been frustrating for him. Right after his stroke, he became even more frustrated, not only because his speech was effected, but also because he knew his arm/hand wasn't working the right way. It is hard to see and deal with. I hope that with time and therapy your son will be back to his old self.

I am now waiting for my sons medical records to be sent to Children's Hospital in Boston to be reviewed.
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Reply #6 - May 13th, 2011 at 1:02am
 
I agree that is normal to be frustrated after the sugery. And I think it's also normal to be kinda moody/crabby, I know I would be ok and the secound I got tired I got TIRED! and my family says when I was tired and couldn't go to sleep becuase we were out of the house I was crabby! It was like I could go and think I was doing great and then bamn I hit a wall and I needed sleep no matter where I was I needed it right then and there.  I'm sure your son is experincing somthing very similar.  Just make sure he get's enough rest Smiley I know the first month I could make it a max 45 mins without taking a nap.  Hope this helps!
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