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hrsridermom
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Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:20am
 
The surgeons all say the surgeries are a success.  They say "you can resume your normal activities"...  We were even told that SCUBA would be OK.  If that's the case then WHY do people with MM have to stay away from certain medications?  Why do they still have TIA's?  Why do they continue to have weird unexplained symptoms?  I mean if the surgery "fixes" things why do they still have issues.  I would like a doctor to explain this...Please.  I know surgery isn't a "cure" but if you have a new blood supply to your brain then what is left to worry about.  I  don't think this has ever been explained fully.  If there is someone out there that has gotten a clear explanation from their doctor can you please pass it on? (frustrated)
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Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 12:40pm
 
hrsridermom,
I am not a doctor but I asked some of those same questions to mine. He said everyone's MM is a little bit different. Everyones progression of the thinning vessels is different, and so are the surgeries. I know of at least 4 different surgeries for MMers. Depenednt on the surgery and the healthyness of the person depends on the stuff you can do, should never do, or it is not recomened but it is your choice to do.

Some people may have MM so bad that the vessel they may use to do a STA-MCA bybass is not strong enough to give the person the blood flow the doctor thaught so they may have to have another surgery and that may only be know after another TIA/Stroke.

All MMers should take care in choosing medications and activities that may cause a bad flux in the blood pressure. Also since MM is progresive MMers need to keep a watchful eye for other vessels that may need help that did not need help at the time of the surgery.

Lets take me for example: My STA-MCA bypass was supoed to be from the side of my head but during the operation they had to get one from my forhead. Also during the surgery they did not feel like the STA-MCA would give me the blood flow they thaught so I got the EMS as well. I was also told to watch my right side because there is a spot that may or maynot thin in the future. Becasue of all that I am not able to SCUBA or skydive. I don't seem to have medication, achohol, cafienee, or excersize restrictions. I am other wise perfectly healthy.

I hope this helped.
Becky
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What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger. And sometimes leaves a cool looking scar.     STA-MCA bypass and EMS Surgeries done at same time at the Mayo clinic
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 11:01am
 
Hey Donna, I feel your pain! I do believe from the surgeons point of view, everything is going to be fine. As parents of kids with MM, we know thats not true. How can they still have headaches every day, random numbness, ANXIETY, etc.... I really think the docs don't know all there is to know about this disease and the way it affects people in such different ways. Its a constant, never ending worry!! They need to figure something out for our girls and everyone else affected by this crappy disease!! Miss you guys!!
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Reply #3 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 11:49am
 
I know what you're saying Becky and Pam.  It's just so frustrating though.  Doc says "everything is great!  she can live a normal life now". Really? Than why is she lying in bed miserable, with a bad cold and I can't give her the usual meds to make her feel better! 

She had a new symptom on Monday.  she was at band practice and she said her vision got all blurry.  She said she drank plenty of water.  she sat out for a few minutes and it passed but that was scary for her.  She is still getting tingling and numbness in her hand and lots of ehadaches.  BUT her CT Angio, this summer showed that everything looked good.  SIGH!

Pam...are you going to the next get together?  We're going to try but won't know until it gets closer.  With college next year our plans will depnd on $$$.
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Reply #4 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 12:35pm
 
Courtney really wants to go! Me too! Does her other side show any narrowing? Courts was worse on one side, but they did both knowing it would only progress. The blurry vision sounds so scary! Maybe it was too hot out? That really affects court. Tell her I hope she feels better!!
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Reply #5 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 5:05pm
 
   I know exactly how you guys feel. Kathleen is 9 yrs post surgery and I still worry. She doesn't have any major symptoms but there are lingering things that I feel I have to be careful of. The heat really wipes her out. Staying hydrated, getting enough sleep to make it through the day, and of course all the stuff from the strokes. She has a list of specialists as long as my arm.  I know for Kathleen life will never be "normal" again... BUT she's here and she's happy and she's had NO strokes or TIAs in 9 yrs so I do have lots to be thankful for. Best of all, we don't think about it daily anymore...  I think patients with moyamoya could teach some Dr.s a lot about "life with MM"
hrsridersmom, what kind of instrument does your daughter play? is it a "wind" instrument? I've heard playing this type of instrument can cause symptoms just like hyperventilating can.
Mary Grace
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Reply #6 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 11:21pm
 
Mary Grace, she usually plays the clarinet.  Right now is marching season so she is playing brass (melaphone) for now.  she has never really had problems with playing.  When she gets tired she just stops blowing.  She'll sit out during practice when she gets tired or overheated.  I just didn't have the heart to take away one more thing.  Her doctor said she could play but not to overdo it.
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Reply #7 - Sep 24th, 2011 at 2:25pm
 
Our doctor also told us to avoid wind instruments, blowing up balloons and anything else that causes a decrease in carbon dioxide. Lower than normal co2 levels will cause vasoconstriction in the brains blood vessels - not good in a brain already struggling with its blood/oxygen supply.  My daughter has not had surgery however and i dont know if this holds true post op.  Hope her cold gets better soon.
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Reply #8 - Oct 2nd, 2011 at 7:43pm
 
Somewhere in mm.com there's a list of things to avoid.
If I can find it I'll re-post it.
It's not easy avoiding vasoconstrictors and constant vigilance feels needed. Ask your druggist for a decongestant that doesn't have the vasoconstrictors. Even eye drop need attention.
It get's better. Glad you're asking such good questions.
and yes, it seems that we all have slightly different requirements.......

Best of health to you all
Linda

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