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Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study (Read 3023 times)
Greg-NJ1
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Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study
Jan 4th, 2006 at 9:24pm
 
Hi all,

During my appointment with the doctors at Columbia Pres. a few weeks back, they have asked me to participate in the Columbia long-term EDAS/MoyaMoya study. I'll be meeting with the Dr/Prof in charge of the study in a few weeks, but I was hoping to get a heads up on the study?

Anyone on hear participating in the study? TomG?

Thanks,
Greg
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I was misdiagnosed with MM in March of 2005. In January 2006, I was told it is not MM, but rather a massive restriction in the MC1 segment of my left carotid artery.
 
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Re: Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study
Reply #1 - Jan 5th, 2006 at 8:05am
 
Greg,

Great opportunity for you and many others who may be a candidate for EDAS....to contribute to the betterment of medicine and mankind. Takes my breath away.

The Columbia study has been in the works for a while now. I contacted Columbia early last year about my brother Kevin. Of course, it turns out, he was not a candidate for EDAS. For this reason, I have no details on the long-term study as I immediately dropped any further inquiry once I knew Kevin would not be a EDAS candidate. Simply put, Kevin needed bloodflow now or die. Because Kevin needed life-saving surgery, I really didn't get the opportunity to know all the ins and outs of the different surgeries because there were no choices when it came to Kevin. I have learned more about EDAS from the experiences posted on the MM.com board.

The Columbia study is a wonderful opportunity for those who may be a candidate for EDAS. I am thrilled that there is even a long-term study going on. I am interested in the study simply from the surgery option and long-term prognosis view. Who knows, as a sibling, I'm always wondering if I am ever diagnosed with MM, I certainly would like the opportunity of weighing all options. I believe any long-term study can prove or disprove many different things. I find it very interesting.

Do you happen to know if there is any age restriction for anyone interested in the study who may be a candidate? Do you know how long they will follow you if you are a candidate? Meaning is it from the time they establish if you are an EDAS candidate then through surgery and then how long after surgery?

Please keep me posted on your involvement in the study.

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Lore

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tiomasai
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Re: Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study
Reply #2 - Jan 5th, 2006 at 8:11am
 
Hey Greg:

I am a participant of the study.  However, they had wanted me to be a participant as a non surgical patient (they need patients who do and don't have the surgery).  When I decided to have the STA-MCA, they decided to keep me on in the study anyway (I'm the lone direct bypass patient, I believe).  The direction of the study is not quite fully defined due to the lack of a larger number of participants.  So I think it's great you are doing it!

It's not difficult - you basically do everything you would normally do but your insurance doesn't pay for it b/c the study grant pays for it.  You'll do the neuropsych exam (about 3 hours), and the CO2 reactivity test and a doppler. 

Dr. Festa is really nice, but she doesn't do all the testing, people in her group do. 

Let us know how it goes!

Trina

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Re: Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study
Reply #3 - Jan 5th, 2006 at 1:02pm
 
Trina,

How interesting they decided to take direct by-pass patients as well. Now that you mention it, I do recall they wanted those who had not had surgery as well. At the time, Kevin hadn't had surgery nor did we know what kind of surgery he would have if any. In retrospect, I believe they knew from my communication at the time he was in pretty bad shape.

When I first contacted Columbia, although Kevin had not yet had surgery, he had already experienced a significant stroke and multiple TIA's and cerebral infarcts.  My original intent when I contacted Columbia was to get Kevin treatment and I thought that might be the way to go in getting someone to pay attention to his diagnosis and dilemma but to no avail. Soon after that, I found Dr. S. and never pursued the Columbia study any further.

Anyway, Kevin probably still could not be a participant because of the neuropsych part due to his strokes and his abstract thinking being affected. Also, we would have to travel a distance to participate but heck, we like jet setting across the US. LOL Smiley

Hugs, Smiley

Lore
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Re: Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study
Reply #4 - Jan 5th, 2006 at 5:03pm
 
Hey Lore!

Actually, they didn't decide to 'take' direct bypass patients.  They had no choice for me since the study's surgical sponsor (the first surgeon I went to regarding Moya Moya) did not recommend surgery for me when I agreed to participate in the study.  I went against this advice (and as you know, in the favor of the advice of three other doctors).  But they decided to maintain data on me anyway, although the data is not necessarily going to be incorporated into the study. 

And you're right, it's quite far for many, so unfortunately, I think it's not going to be the greatest assessment.  In an accurate surgical study, you need patients with the disease who didn't get surgery to compare against, an option I don't highly recommend with most moya moya patients.  Because of the low volume of cases in the study, there is less funding and hence, less money to pay for out of town patients to come in.  Sad

But of course, study or no study, you'll have a home in NYC at my place!  So jet set over to Queens any time!!

Smiley

Trina
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Re: Columiba Presbiterian EDAS Long Term Study
Reply #5 - Apr 30th, 2006 at 12:29pm
 
Hi Greg,
I am  curious about this study --I live in isolated area (Wiiliamsport PA) so I feel like I am really out of the loop.!!  Can you please send some info. or contact me via email --tmeredith11@suscom.net. Ever since I was dia. with MM I have always wanted to do something - you know what I mean??
Greatly appreciate a response.

cheer.
Trish
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